iPhone [Archive] - The Mondrated

Inxile

January 10th, 2007, 09:54 AM

better computers, better mp3 players and now a better phone...

Lol edit >< quote buttons

better PC o.O almost all of Mac hardware is the same as PC their is some stuff thats proprietary.

mac have a totally different use then pc. they used for thing that take a huge amount of system resource, graphic design/video/music editing.

better in what way? that depends on the user.

the ipod.....way to overpriced.

whos to says its a better a phone. i really don't care about anything that phone has other then it can send/recieve phone calls....its a phone for ffs

WiGgLr

January 10th, 2007, 10:04 AM

better computers, better mp3 players and now a better phone...

It's got no 3G.

I'd miss my video calls

Careryn

January 10th, 2007, 10:13 AM

Hrmm, other than being aesthetically pleasing.. the design is flawed imo. The whole side is a screen... which seems cool at first until you drop it and it skids across the pavement, and at $400-600 that's gonna be quite expensive to replace should your warranty expire. Not to mention that if it's going to be a phone and a mp3 player it better have one hell of a battery life.

Faenorr

January 10th, 2007, 11:04 AM

Lol edit >< quote buttons

better PC o.O almost all of Mac hardware is the same as PC their is some stuff thats proprietary.

mac have a totally different use then pc. they used for thing that take a huge amount of system resource, graphic design/video/music editing.

better in what way? that depends on the user.

the ipod.....way to overpriced.

whos to says its a better a phone. i really don't care about anything that phone has other then it can send/recieve phone calls....its a phone for ffs

Well the design of a g5 or mac pro and not the hardware is what makes the system unique and better in my opinion. But how are macs TOTALLY different?? same apps any pc has. Oh but games... i forgot... /switch os. And ya you dont care about what that phone has to offer but every phone out there has these features, my 710i has email, pictures, music, calling, messaging... but the iphone put all of this at the touch of a finger, id say thats a better phone. Either way apple offers a better product in my opinion.

damme

January 10th, 2007, 11:15 AM

iPod is (or was when I bought mine) the cheapest mp3 player/memory :$

WiGgLr

January 10th, 2007, 11:32 AM

Well the design of a g5 or mac pro and not the hardware is what makes the system unique and better in my opinion. But how are macs TOTALLY different?? same apps any pc has. Oh but games... i forgot... /switch os. And ya you dont care about what that phone has to offer but every phone out there has these features, my 710i has email, pictures, music, calling, messaging... but the iphone put all of this at the touch of a finger, id say thats a better phone. Either way apple offers a better product in my opinion.

Whatever you say, Apple's decision to say "3G, we don't need it" has made them design a previous generation phone.

3G is what gives a phone fast downloads, it's what makes video streaming possible.

Apple have basically come out with a product which says:
"want the next-gen telephone features? BUY ANOTHER MANUFACTURER'S PHONE"

Zelaton

January 10th, 2007, 12:57 PM

Looks sweet, has alot a features, and I love Apple's stuff. But, its kinda large, the screen will get hella scratched up, and its ALOT of money.

WiGgLr

January 10th, 2007, 01:23 PM

"hey lets make a phone that does everything current phones do, then make it look like an iPod"

Faenorr

January 10th, 2007, 03:02 PM

Whatever you say, Apple's decision to say "3G, we don't need it" has made them design a previous generation phone.

3G is what gives a phone fast downloads, it's what makes video streaming possible.

Apple have basically come out with a product which says:
"want the next-gen telephone features? BUY ANOTHER MANUFACTURER'S PHONE"

Eh? i dont even know what ur trying to say... but heres 3g's write up on the news http://www.3g.co.uk/PR/Jan2007/4125.htm

WiGgLr

January 10th, 2007, 03:08 PM

Eh? i dont even know what ur trying to say... but heres 3g's write up on the news http://www.3g.co.uk/PR/Jan2007/4125.htm

BBC News 24 had a brief article this morning while I was ironing my shirt. They showed everyone cheering like only the overenthusiastic plastic American mad-men can when Mr Jobs announced it was a phone too.

Mr Job: "It's an iPod and it's a phone, look it's got numbers"
Crowd: "WOOOOOOHOOOOO HALLEILUIA PRAISE THE LORD I'M COMING IN MY PANTS WOOOOOOHOOOOOO!!!!!!"

The newsreader said it wasn't 3G compatible, which has become the standard for video phoning on a mobile. I guess the BBC may have been wrong though?

Careryn

January 10th, 2007, 03:23 PM

From what I've read, it will initially be released without support for 3G but it will be added later.

Talorth

January 10th, 2007, 06:46 PM

I wonder if itll be made with the same cheap plastic coating the Nano had that scratches really easy.

I'm sorry but Apple makes cheaply built products, their 24" imac is made out of plastic. Granted the majority of Flat Panels are plastic but it kinda feels cheap for a 2400 dollar machine.

Well the design of a g5 or mac pro and not the hardware is what makes the system unique and better in my opinion. But how are macs TOTALLY different?? same apps any pc has. Oh but games... i forgot... /switch os. And ya you dont care about what that phone has to offer but every phone out there has these features, my 710i has email, pictures, music, calling, messaging... but the iphone put all of this at the touch of a finger, id say thats a better phone. Either way apple offers a better product in my opinion.

A machine isn't about design, granted a machine should look pretty (think lianli cases). I dislike limited hardware support for other peripherals, I can't always pick the video card/ram/etc I would like to have. And for what they give you, they are charging an arm and a leg just for their OS/Hardware. And no, mac/pc aren't really arent that different... One just costs alot...

Apple has had a bad product record too with alot of their products. It is unlikely that the iPhone will have good battery life, I mean look at the thing... Whats the point of this device if its not on 3g and has bad battery life, not to mention costs $600 USD?

Oh, and iTunes is a counter intuitive piece of software.

WiGgLr

January 10th, 2007, 06:52 PM

Whats the point of this device if its not on 3g

Hey it's got internet. just at 3 years ago generation mobile phone speed.

Talorth

January 10th, 2007, 06:53 PM

Oh but wigg, its apple! SO ITS GOOD!

Grindrolas

January 10th, 2007, 07:02 PM

I love the RDF

Talorth

January 10th, 2007, 07:54 PM

So do I.

stockfisch

January 10th, 2007, 08:02 PM

no you dont

Talorth

January 10th, 2007, 08:04 PM

Quit trying to catch up to my postcount :(.

stockfisch

January 10th, 2007, 08:05 PM

youre trying to do that, not me :P

Zebedee

January 10th, 2007, 08:11 PM

I like Apple. Earlier today I got an email from them thanking me for registering my new 8mb nano. In the email they offered to let me download their single of the week free for one year, so that's 52 songs per year. Well there's no way I was going to turn down a freebie of year long proportions so I followed the link. The computer clicked, chirped and whirred a little, my IE window vanished, iTunes cranked up, iStore jumps up on the screen, a little download bar appears and makes some miniscule progress, AND THEN a pop up informs me that "The free Single of the Week service is unavailable in the UK".

Now to me that's fucking class. If you're gonna outright exlude people it's a lot more fun to really get their hopes up and then fuck them over. Steve Jobs is da man.

Talorth

January 10th, 2007, 08:17 PM

Oh, fucking American only offers, I get that problem all the time.... Of course they don't tell you till after the fact.
Just like the original 1st gen nano scratches to shit, then they come out with the 'improved' nano.

WiGgLr

January 11th, 2007, 07:44 AM

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6250511.stm

Faenorr

January 11th, 2007, 10:39 AM

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Talorth

January 11th, 2007, 06:01 PM

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6250511.stm

I laughed at that myself.

gen3tic

January 11th, 2007, 06:12 PM

Anybody else think it is stupid that the only way to replace the battery is to.... buy a new phone?

Zelaton

January 11th, 2007, 08:41 PM

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6250511.stm

Read that in the paper today, I lawl'd. :lol:

Mordenkainen

January 11th, 2007, 10:35 PM

Apple is like the pretty model that you would bone, but you would never marry.

Talorth

January 11th, 2007, 10:49 PM

Apple is like the pretty model that you would bone, but you would never marry.

QFT

Faenorr

January 13th, 2007, 08:14 PM

Saw this on conan o'brian the other night and was waiting for someone to youtube it so i could post it up. Anways heres the iPhone skit

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LH8DosBAG-o

enjoy

Zelandra

January 14th, 2007, 12:03 AM

The only thing apple has ever, and will ever, contribute to the world is the pressure point touch screen that they're working on. It isn't limited like all touch screens are now, to one pressure point, it can read any amount of pressure points.

Besides that, I'm sad that Apple didn't go bankrupt when they almost did. I would've celebrated that day like an international holiday.

They sell crap, and then instead of making it upgradable they say "OH HEY, BUY ANOTHER ONE FOR THE SAME PRICE OR $100 MORE". They hired monkeys as their engineers, because nothing with the internal design of the iPods actually makes sense, it's the most retarded thing ever.

Just because something looks like cheap plastic doesn't mean it's good.

mono

January 14th, 2007, 04:57 AM

Saw this on conan o'brian the other night and was waiting for someone to youtube it so i could post it up. Anways heres the iPhone skit

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LH8DosBAG-o

enjoy

This video has been removed at the request of copyright owner NBC Universal because its content was used without permission

:(

Faenorr

January 15th, 2007, 08:21 AM

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stockfisch

January 15th, 2007, 08:23 AM

lol hahahahaha
hand grenade

h3aven2hell

January 15th, 2007, 02:50 PM

Damn and here i was thinking I wanted one of these things. Guess I can save my money for some other worthless item...like an L2 game time card :P

WiGgLr

January 15th, 2007, 05:55 PM

it really is fucking huge... try fitting one in your pocket

Zelandra

January 16th, 2007, 04:46 PM

All my friends are excited....why?

"OMG IT'S AN IPOD THAT YOU CAN CALL PEOPLE ON".

I walked out of the room when I heard four people screaming about it.

It's retarded people like this that keep Apple alive, and they sadden me.

Talorth

January 16th, 2007, 04:54 PM

Zelandra

January 17th, 2007, 03:22 PM

actually the initial response hasnt been as good as what apple expected... the 600 dollar price tag and the cingular only has turned off most people...

ive even heard people saying that the screen will get damaged, is apple's bad product design finally getting noticed?

The initial response from the people on the internet yes. Most of the people that buy iPods barely know how to use the iTunes program they have to use for the iPod, and they are loving this fucking idea right now.

The "cingular only" crap isn't really valid, seeing as how it's Americas most popular cell phone provider, as well as has the best coverage over the states.

Faenorr

January 17th, 2007, 03:35 PM

it really is fucking huge... try fitting one in your pocket

4.5 x 2.4 x 0.46 inches / 115 x 61 x 11.6mm, are your pockets that small?

actually the initial response hasnt been as good as what apple expected... the 600 dollar price tag and the cingular only has turned off most people...

ive even heard people saying that the screen will get damaged, is apple's bad product design finally getting noticed?

go here http://www.apple.com/macpro/design.html and show me exacly where apples bad product design is. Is it the duel 64 bit duel core xeon processors, the 8 dimm slots for up to 16 gigs of ram, the tooless pci express slots for nvidia or ati cards. I don't really see how this is bad product design.

Zelandra

January 17th, 2007, 05:06 PM

YuriSakazaki

January 17th, 2007, 07:25 PM

The initial response from the people on the internet yes. Most of the people that buy iPods barely know how to use the iTunes program they have to use for the iPod, and they are loving this fucking idea right now.

The "cingular only" crap isn't really valid, seeing as how it's Americas most popular cell phone provider, as well as has the best coverage over the states.

Actually, Verizon has both more customers and the largest coverage area in the US (followed closely by Alltel and Sprint). Verizon and Alltel also have many, many 3G phones, while Cingular (Now AT&T... again) barely even supports 3G.

Also, the iPhone has no third party support, meaning the thing comes with what's on it, you can't add new applications unless they're specifically made BY Apple. So long, dreams of awesome homebrew apps. It's a pretty phone, and has a nice interface, no doubt, but once you get beyond the screen, the thing's a piece of shit. Apple's PCs have nothing that make them any different from a normal PC other than the fact that I can't build one myself without paying Apple's luxury tax of having a pretty box with an Apple logo and OSX 10.4 (which is not worth the $500+ premium).

Talorth

January 18th, 2007, 01:31 AM

go here http://www.apple.com/macpro/design.html and show me exacly where apples bad product design is. Is it the duel 64 bit duel core xeon processors, the 8 dimm slots for up to 16 gigs of ram, the tooless pci express slots for nvidia or ati cards. I don't really see how this is bad product design.

I wasn't even referring to the mac pro, that's apple's high end system... they aren't going to cheap out on something expensive... however their logic motherboard, os, and computer case are not worth the extra $1000 dollars the system will cost.

It is a beautiful case don't get me wrong (not my paticular style, I hate the giant apple logo too). But I could build that system myself in a slightly less attractive case (I like the case more myself, but people dont get that "ooo Oo mac" feel I guess... Dual Core Xeon boards that have 8 DIMM slots arent hard to find.....

Lol its 2500 bucks with 1gigs of ram with dual dual core 2.6ghz xeons? O.o... 7300gt and 250g drive?

Wow shit!

Faenorr

January 18th, 2007, 09:23 AM

Apple only sells products because retards like yourself get distracted by shiny plastic objects.

thats clearly it, i like shiny plastic objects... although brushed metal isnt really that shiny. Yet im the retard here. Im talking to the wrong people here though. Theres a hell of a lot of people out there that will agree with me that apple sells a better product than most you can buy out there. Anyways enjoy your clown suit os, and half assed systems.

YuriSakazaki

January 18th, 2007, 12:48 PM

Zelandra

January 18th, 2007, 07:13 PM

thats clearly it, i like shiny plastic objects... although brushed metal isnt really that shiny. Yet im the retard here. Im talking to the wrong people here though. Theres a hell of a lot of people out there that will agree with me that apple sells a better product than most you can buy out there. Anyways enjoy your clown suit os, and half assed systems.

Atleast my clown suit OS is actually usable in any corporate setting. Any company that is run on Macs is bound to go into bankruptcy, and that's almost a proven fact.

Macs are useless for anything besides looking pretty. The engineers at Apple should be fired, because they got their degrees from a fucking cereal box. I'm not even out of college and I personally could make the innards of a Mac more more efficient, and actually useful.

The people that are you there that agree with you are also retards, and I'll laugh at you when Apple tanks. There's only so many times you can release the same product over and over with minor upgrades and charge an extra $200 for it before people catch on.

Archaos

January 18th, 2007, 09:30 PM

PC > Apple.

I just never liked um, never will.

Faenorr

January 19th, 2007, 09:27 AM

FreeBSD is probably the best OS out there right now (Mac OS is basically a pretty FreeBSD), and Windows is the platform of choice for gaming, bar none. Macs used to be the platform of choice for bandwidth-intensive operations (video/photo/music manipulation), but now that it's just like a PC, there's really no other advantage. That's all I'm saying, really. Especially now that MS has created the whole XNA system, gaming on Windows is only going to get a whole lot better in the coming months (i.e., simultaneous development of 360/PC games due to XNA :3). I personally can't wait for Gears of War and Halo 2 for PC >:3)

yea im not arguing with you on that by any means. Thats the argument i have always stood up with, and will continue to. Pc's have always been expandable, and have always had the gg's. Although wow does run great onmy friends macbook pro. And Paralells is great for running windows apps if need be. Although i have actually never really heard of freeBSD, i might actually check it out. Btw you better get your wii soon yuri, unless your scared of gettin spanked in ssbb ;)

Now, Zelandra. Could you please try not to sound like such a fucking moron. Apple has been around for how long and they are only getting bigger. Apple has no place in a corperate office or that type of setting. Its not viable, the cost of the system is not needed. But apple will always have a place in a developers office, web design, film production. Thats what it boils down to. Where the system is needed. My friend works at a small mac store in the city, and just the other week made a sale for 3 mac pro's that together ran about 30 grand, and that went to an engineering office close by. Tell me when that will need an upgrade? Even my buddy has a blue and white g3 thats about 6 years old, that he runs as a server now. Your a fool.

Zelandra

January 19th, 2007, 09:34 AM

Now, Zelandra. Could you please try not to sound like such a fucking moron. Apple has been around for how long and they are only getting bigger. Apple has no place in a corperate office or that type of setting. Its not viable, the cost of the system is not needed. But apple will always have a place in a developers office, web design, film production. Thats what it boils down to. Where the system is needed. My friend works at a small mac store in the city, and just the other week made a sale for 3 mac pro's that together ran about 30 grand, and that went to an engineering office close by. Tell me when that will need an upgrade? Even my buddy has a blue and white g3 thats about 6 years old, that he runs as a server now. Your a fool.

I'm not a fool at all. Before iPod Apple was on the verge on bankruptcy, and that is well known. And don't try to even talk to me about how it works within the business. I've been an IT support at scattered large companies for several years, and as soon as they have a problem with a Mac my bosses have told me to go and tell the user to buy a PC.

They're absolutely worthless, you can outmatch a PC with the Macs performance any day, and Macs aren't cheaper at all, they're just are plain horrible. Apple's products have the whole "media editing etc." aura around them, but now the PCs have far overcome it.

Guess what Pixar and them use to make their 3D movies? OH YEA A FUCKING PC.

But you go ahead and go on your Apple crusade, atleast we all know who is right, and how the future will unfold.

Faenorr

January 19th, 2007, 09:54 AM

I'm not a fool at all. Before iPod Apple was on the verge on bankruptcy, and that is well known. And don't try to even talk to me about how it works within the business. I've been an IT support at scattered large companies for several years, and as soon as they have a problem with a Mac my bosses have told me to go and tell the user to buy a PC.

They're absolutely worthless, you can outmatch a PC with the Macs performance any day, and Macs aren't cheaper at all, they're just are plain horrible. Apple's products have the whole "media editing etc." aura around them, but now the PCs have far overcome it.

Guess what Pixar and them use to make their 3D movies? OH YEA A FUCKING PC.

But you go ahead and go on your Apple crusade, atleast we all know who is right, and how the future will unfold.

wow your really are a fool, just last year jobbs sold pixar for 7.4 billion. And still sits on the board of directors. You think after 12 years making movies with mac, their going to throw that studio away and switch. Show me where you found that they use pc's.

And if apple can engineer something along the lines of the Durbis polymer used on blu-ray discs right now, into something they can put on the touch screen of the iPhone then that would be a break through.

WiGgLr

January 19th, 2007, 10:58 AM

There is no way in hell I'd switch to a mac for web application development

Faenorr

January 19th, 2007, 11:12 AM

There is no way in hell I'd switch to a mac for web application development

nevermind clearly its the apps your working with

Grindrolas

January 19th, 2007, 02:34 PM

Fae is under the influence of the RDF :<

stockfisch

January 19th, 2007, 02:35 PM

or maybe he just likes apple? :P

damme

January 19th, 2007, 02:47 PM

Whats the RDF? D:

Grindrolas

January 19th, 2007, 03:05 PM

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/01/19/motorola_linux_phone/ <-- IMO iPhone killer, if you're buying it for he phone and not the mp3 player.

Phone running linux means you can write your own apps ;)

As for the RDF, quote taken from wikipedia.

Reality distortion field (RDF) is both slang (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slang) and computer industry jargon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jargon). The term was coined by Bud Tribble (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bud_Tribble) at Apple Computer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Computer) in 1981 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1981) to describe company co-founder Steve Jobs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Jobs)' charisma (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charisma) and its effects on the developers working on the Mac project; by making them believe in what they were doing, enormous amounts of work were put in to bring the project to fruition. Later, the term was used to refer to devoted Macintosh (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Macintosh) users and others, and to several products launched by Apple, whose success has been largely inexplicable in technical terms. In essence, RDF is the idea that Steve Jobs is able to convince people to believe almost anything with a skillful mix of charm (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charm), charisma (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charisma), exaggeration (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperbole), and clever marketing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marketing).
RDF is said to distort an audience's sense of proportion or scale. Small advances are applauded as breakthroughs. Interesting developments become turning points, or huge leaps forward. RDF focuses less on outright deception and more on warping powers of judgment.
The term is sometimes extended to other managers and leaders in the high-tech industry, who try to convince their employees to become passionately committed to projects, sometimes without regard to the overall product or to competitive forces (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Competition) in the marketplace (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marketplace). In many instances, RDF is considered more self-delusional than effective.

Zelandra

January 19th, 2007, 04:11 PM

And if apple can engineer something along the lines of the Durbis polymer used on blu-ray discs right now, into something they can put on the touch screen of the iPhone then that would be a break through.

And I could grow wings if I had the time to evolve, but reality is always far away from what we "hope" for.

Blu-ray is going to fail anyways, so there's no need to worry.

You just keep living in your little Apple world. Once they're gone, the world will be a cleansed place of happiness and Angels will come down from the sky and tell us we did well.

Talorth

January 19th, 2007, 06:03 PM

Actually wasn't apple doing poorly until Steve Jobbs made his comeback as CEO?

I believe he had a job working on their version of freeBSD from that company.... which I cant remember the name of... the one that was working on the OS that became OSX.

WiGgLr

January 19th, 2007, 06:18 PM

Phone running linux means you can write your own apps ;)

So does phone running windows, only it's easier with windows

Grindrolas

January 19th, 2007, 06:28 PM

So does phone running windows, only it's easier with windows
true, both are better than a closed iPhone.

WiGgLr

January 19th, 2007, 06:30 PM

agreed

plus you'll have 3g on either of our choices

Grindrolas

January 19th, 2007, 06:38 PM

agreed

plus you'll have 3g on either of our choices
Yep, apple is a little bit behind the curve with this phone. Either they took too long to bring it out, or they didn't think 3g would be a big deal. I also really dislike people telling me what I can, and cannot do, with my hardware.

Talorth

January 19th, 2007, 07:47 PM

telling me what I can, and cannot do, with my hardware.

Catholic church?

YuriSakazaki

January 19th, 2007, 09:00 PM

Jobs worked at NeXT, which was a pretty innovative computer company. The other parts of Mac OSX are from NeXTStep, their OS. Apple bought out NeXT and Jobs went back to being CEO, Apple was close to sinking before that. In fact, MS dumped tons of money into them to keep them from tanking.

Talorth

January 19th, 2007, 09:47 PM

ah right so it is true...

WiGgLr

July 17th, 2007, 05:29 PM

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Yes, it blends

LaEnana

July 18th, 2007, 08:18 PM

Dunno who else saw the announcement yesterday but its here, the apple iPhone. More pics here http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/09/first-iphone-pics/

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.engadget.com/media/2007/01/apple-iphone-32.jpg

iDon'tCare

Victis

July 19th, 2007, 01:10 AM

I've never been a big fan of Mac just based on my experience with the computers/os's themselves.. my father actually wasted money on an iMac - looks like a plastic fisher price computer you'd get for a child.. it had nonstop problems and the only thing you could expand on it, were the usb slots.. talk about versatility.. it even came with a handle on the top incase you want to lug it back to the place you bought it and scream at them for selling the most useless piece of shit in the computing world.

I know how terrible Microsoft can be, and I wouldn't stand up for them at all.. but Mac's are garbage to me and don't appeal to the average computer user at those prices.. fuck that, fuck Mac.. fuck this iPhone, just another distraction.