More lies and conspiracy theories...

[Victis]

I'd actually like some of you guys interested in some of this stuff to spend the time to watch this and comment on what you think

http://joox.net/cat/44/id/1322946

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http://www.tv-links.co.uk/show.do/9/4795

[Grog]

it has cat in the url
lol

[damme]

DivX web player never works for me :(

[Archaos]

din't work for me either, I just got audio.

[damme]

I get "can not download movie" or something like that.

[Grog]

maybe that's the conspiracy

[damme]

:O <- Archaos mouth

[CharlieM]

Heres one for ya vic.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5547481422995115331&q=zeitgeist+OFFICIAL+RELEASE&total=9&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

This is far and large the best 'conspiracy' video I have ever seen.
I would even go so far as to say that this has changed my mind on the WTC collapse.

Its 2 hours, its all about religion, wars, money, and who controls all of it and why.

VERY big eye opener.

[Gafaton]

Heres one for ya vic.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5547481422995115331&q=zeitgeist+OFFICIAL+RELEASE&total=9&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

This is far and large the best 'conspiracy' video I have ever seen.
I would even go so far as to say that this has changed my mind on the WTC collapse.

Its 2 hours, its all about religion, wars, money, and who controls all of it and why.

VERY big eye opener.


wow...what a mindfuck. The relationship between Horus and Christ I was aware of....but not all those others..jeez. My dad and I have often debated some of his colleagues about the unconstitutional nature of income tax...but the man will always win, because he is in charge of it. I could actually go on and on about how right this documentary is, but I dont have the energy atm.

[Craysh]

Heres one for ya vic.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5547481422995115331&q=zeitgeist+OFFICIAL+RELEASE&total=9&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

This is far and large the best 'conspiracy' video I have ever seen.
I would even go so far as to say that this has changed my mind on the WTC collapse.

Its 2 hours, its all about religion, wars, money, and who controls all of it and why.

VERY big eye opener.

Oh yeah, that guy.
Popular Mechanics literally ripped into this guy, saying he was more misleading than Michael Moore (and that's fucking misleading).
They essentially broke down all his arguments in one of their issues like a year ago or something.
You should also watch the Penn and Teller Bullshit episode about conspiracies.

EDIT: Also, I forgot to say. They were talking to the steel workers unions, who were very proud about how the WTC collapsed. It collapsed how every sky scraper in NY is designed to collapse: on itself. That way the buildings around it won't fall and more lives won't be in danger.
For those who say "you can obviously see explosives go off," have you ever seen steel snap? It's not a quiet or sedate event.
For those who say that it was a military plane going into the side of the building and the "lump" on it's side was proof. Said video was shown later that CNN faked their video (http://www.metacafe.com/watch/541194/cnn_fake_footage_blasted_more_proof_for_the_hard_h eaded/)

[Gafaton]

Oh yeah, that guy.
Popular Mechanics literally ripped into this guy, saying he was more misleading than Michael Moore (and that's fucking misleading).
They essentially broke down all his arguments in one of their issues like a year ago or something.
You should also watch the Penn and Teller Bullshit episode about conspiracies.

EDIT: Also, I forgot to say. They were talking to the steel workers unions, who were very proud about how the WTC collapsed. It collapsed how every sky scraper in NY is designed to collapse: on itself. That way the buildings around it won't fall and more lives won't be in danger.
For those who say "you can obviously see explosives go off," have you ever seen steel snap? It's not a quiet or sedate event.
For those who say that it was a military plane going into the side of the building and the "lump" on it's side was proof. Said video was shown later that CNN faked their video (http://www.metacafe.com/watch/541194/cnn_fake_footage_blasted_more_proof_for_the_hard_h eaded/)


I think you misunderstood what Charlie said. I think Charlie has changed his mind about the motivation behind 9/11...not how it happened from an engineering standpoint.

[Victis]

Heres one for ya vic.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5547481422995115331&q=zeitgeist+OFFICIAL+RELEASE&total=9&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

This is far and large the best 'conspiracy' video I have ever seen.
I would even go so far as to say that this has changed my mind on the WTC collapse.

Its 2 hours, its all about religion, wars, money, and who controls all of it and why.

VERY big eye opener.

Zeitgeist is what I posted and what I just watched over the past few days

[LaEnana]

Heres one for ya vic.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5547481422995115331&q=zeitgeist+OFFICIAL+RELEASE&total=9&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

This is far and large the best 'conspiracy' video I have ever seen.
I would even go so far as to say that this has changed my mind on the WTC collapse.

Its 2 hours, its all about religion, wars, money, and who controls all of it and why.

VERY big eye opener.



Very disturbing movie. Thanks Charlie.

[Victis]

Very disturbing movie. Thanks Charlie.

Bitch I created this thread and you go and thank charlie for reposting the same shit in my own thread... blasphemy!

[Craysh]

If he redid his movie without the vitriol, I'll be happy to watch it ^_^

[CharlieM]

Didnt even see your vid post vic, thats quite wierd how we both posted the same vid.

Zeitgeist is one hell of an eye opener for the religion section if nothing else.
The WTC aspect of it cites loose change (which I fucking hate with a passion), so im not too sold on their explanation or insinuation that it was bought down with explosives, but the motive they put fowards to bringing it down is pretty much the best explanation ive seen yet.

[Gafaton]

Didnt even see your vid post vic, thats quite wierd how we both posted the same vid.

Zeitgeist is one hell of an eye opener for the religion section if nothing else.
The WTC aspect of it cites loose change (which I fucking hate with a passion), so im not too sold on their explanation or insinuation that it was bought down with explosives, but the motive they put fowards to bringing it down is pretty much the best explanation ive seen yet.

totally agree. I dont think the film was trying to say that the gov't did it...I think its trying to say that they let it happen, and even instigated it. Only proof you need is the monumental NORAD failures, and the painfully slow reaction time of the bush administration.

[exiledone]

mind boggling

[Grindrolas]

Zeitgeist is also a damn good cd, but thats a completely different topic.

[Victis]

Someone ++watch and ++discuss

[YuriSakazaki]

Jews did WTC so they could steal the money and fund their Zionist war on the peaceful Muslims in the region, imo.

[Grindrolas]

BILLY CORGAN!!!!

[Gafaton]

I tried to explain the similarities between christ and the other sun born saviors to my super religious conservative rightwing stepfather...and without even considering my opinion he dismissed it as blasphemy...all i replied with is...i rest my case.

[Damarus]

Ra > *

[Victis]

I'd have to say I'm a big fan of the Sun, and I'm a gingerkid so you gotta recognize the symbolism in that.

[Talorth]

LOL

[exiledone]

I tried to explain the similarities between christ and the other sun born saviors to my super religious conservative rightwing stepfather...and without even considering my opinion he dismissed it as blasphemy...all i replied with is...i rest my case.

thats because they have it in their mind already that if they for one second think "what if god isn't real and what i believe in is nothing but a house of cards" because then god MIGHT not let them into heaven.

[Victis]

http://www.tv-links.co.uk/show.do/9/4795

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[Gafaton]

here is my opinion....man created god because he looked up one night and said, fuck we're small. Man saw the influence and fear that gods name carried with it...so man ran with it. now man rules other man with the fear and manipulation of god. tbh, if you need to worry about where you're going once you die to justify your morals, perhaps you should take a good hard look at the person you are. everyone knows right from wrong, and gods will is a poor excuse for knowing what the right thing is. just look at the catholic religion...you go to church to profess your sins...father says its ok...go back out there and sin some more! see it doesn't matter what you do in this life, as long as you keep coming in and giving god your money. is that not enough proof that its all a total scam? seperation of church and state? lol.

[Victis]

Watching this.. do you feel in control.. really? Of your own life on the whole.. do you feel like you've been lied to.. that this system is embedded in all of us and will be impossible to turn around without even more war and death because we don't all see eye to eye.. do we sit around and do nothing.. I'd love to discredit all this information regarding religion and all the influence, the financial elite who own everything.. I mean what the fuck do we do..

Do we go on living our own lives and minding our own business.. do you want your kids, do you yourself want to let all this keep happening? And if we did want to do something about it.. where do we start? Most people just want to live their life and take the path of least resistance..

[LaEnana]

Bitch I created this thread and you go and thank charlie for reposting the same shit in my own thread... blasphemy!


Who's Victis?

[Damarus]

Dude look what you've done... There is a religious advertisement on the bottom of the page now :(

[Victis]

AI?!

[Damarus]

It was some jesus cross thing telling you to join them or something. I would've screenshotted it and posted the pic but I'm unable to perform any uploads on my internet atm... Somethings wrong with it :/

[Gafaton]

Watching this.. do you feel in control.. really? Of your own life on the whole.. do you feel like you've been lied to.. that this system is embedded in all of us and will be impossible to turn around without even more war and death because we don't all see eye to eye.. do we sit around and do nothing.. I'd love to discredit all this information regarding religion and all the influence, the financial elite who own everything.. I mean what the fuck do we do..

Do we go on living our own lives and minding our own business.. do you want your kids, do you yourself want to let all this keep happening? And if we did want to do something about it.. where do we start? Most people just want to live their life and take the path of least resistance..

God is just like the tooth fairy and santa claus...just think of all the adults in the world as small children, and those in charge as their parents. Thats how it has been for thousands of years...and nothing we can do will ever change that fact, unless there is a drastic cultural change that all races and ethnicities take part in.
doubtful. :<

As long as ignorant people keep making ignorant babies...the cycle will never end. I'm lucky to have parents that gave me the freedom to decide what I believed in. I cant stand people that brainwash their kids from a young age to never question anything. Kind of reminds me of the Hitler Youth, or those Jesus Camp psychos.