I wonder what would have happened in England?

[Monroe]

http://www.miamiherald.com/467/story/101762.html

My guess is in England the robbers would rob the store unopposed, then raped the wife and then killed them both. No point in leaving potential witnesses alive.

Btw Florida has some of the more gun friendly laws in the country

[Tengil]

Or most likely they would have robbed the store but met the police outside and got caught and convicted and noone would have been physcially harmed.

[Monroe]

Or most likely they would have robbed the store but met the police outside and got caught and convicted and noone would have been physcially harmed.

English police dont carry guns ether you stupid faggot, and there is like no chance that the robbers wouldnt open up on unarmed civilians just for the hell of it.

[Tengil]

English police dont carry guns ether you stupid faggot, and there is like no chance that the robbers wouldnt open up on unarmed civilians just for the hell of it.

In short: Your speculations are retarded.

[Monroe]

In short: Your speculations are retarded.

I think your pacifism and cowardice have taken over your common sence.

[gen3tic]

Or most likely they would have robbed the store but met the police outside and got caught and convicted and noone would have been physcially harmed.
Yes, because the police are always everywhere :roll:

[Tengil]

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2007210628,00.html

If this had been the US: A gun crazed former worker would have gone ballistic and shot over 3 000 000 people in the head with his machine gun that he got from winning a "pin the tail on the donkey"-contest!

AND THEN HE WOULD HAVE RAPED EVERY WOMAN IN THE WORLD AFTER THAT!


True story!!!

[Monroe]

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2007210628,00.html

If this had been the US: A gun crazed former worker would have gone ballistic and shot over 3 000 000 people in the head with his machine gun that he got from winning a "pin the tail on the donkey"-contest!

AND THEN HE WOULD HAVE RAPED EVERY WOMAN IN THE WORLD AFTER THAT!


True story!!!

I think your pacifism and cowardice have taken over your common sence.

[Tengil]

I think your pacifism and cowardice have taken over your common sence.

Mine and my buddy Tenzin Gyatso's.

[Monroe]

Mine and my buddy Tenzin Gyatso's.

Case in point, bud, last time I checked Tibet is still taken over by china. Your tree hugger protests are will surely pursuade china to liberate it.

[Victis]

My guess is in England the robbers would rob the store unopposed

No one gives a shit what your guess is, shut the fuck up

[Tengil]

Case in point, bud, last time I checked Tibet is still taken over by china. Your tree hugger protests are will surely pursuade china to liberate it.

Im sure if he just had a gun everything would change.

[Monroe]

No one gives a shit what your guess is, shut the fuck up

Lol, why dont you go make some more threads asking mods to ban me only to get shut down.

[Grog]

something tells me you won't get the reaction you want from the english posters!

[Monroe]

Im sure if he just had a gun everything would change.

Ya, fighting for your freedom is never the best choice, lets just surrender to opressors and then cry about it.

[Monroe]

something tells me you won't get the reaction you want from the english posters!

What reaction do you think I want?

[Grog]

or maybe you just wanted the guns thread back. WHO KNOWS

[Victis]

Any reaction that will get you attention, makes sense I guess, ever since your mother shit you out onto the sidewalk she walked away and never looked back.

[Monroe]

Any reaction that will get you attention, makes sense I guess, ever since your mother shit you out onto the sidewalk she walked away and never looked back.

Ok, if you people want gun control, whatever you do dont give a gun to victis, he is so raged he will shoot everyone!

[HooB]

In short: You are retarded.

I was kind enough to correct your misstake Tengil

[Victis]

Im moving to the states and I'll come knocking on your door soon friend.

[Monroe]

I was kind enough to correct your misstake Tengil

Well thankfully sweeden doesnt have anything worth stealing, so you are safe being unarmed, faggot. In America we throw away rotting fish, not make it our national dish.

[Tengil]

Mmm surströmming. :em_luv:

[HooB]

Well thankfully sweeden doesnt have anything worth stealing, so you are safe being unarmed, faggot. In America we throw away rotting fish, not make it our national dish.

Oh noes he attacked my country i'm gonna go slit my wrists now becuase I just love it so much!

Oh and by the way you spell Sweden with just one "e"

[Monroe]

Oh noes he attacked my country i'm gonna go slit my wrists now becuase I just love it so much!

Oh and by the way you spell Sweden with just one "e"

who gives a shit, its a nonfactor fucken country.

Also, you wouldnt have to go through the pain of slittign your wrists and waiting till you bleed out if your country allowed guns. Quick and easy, blow your brains out.

[Archaos]

The constable would've stopped them !!!
nZoSqPxsNtU

[Grog]

xD goodstuff

[Monroe]

I think its a clear sign that I shut down all the gun haters when instead of trying to post something serious, they post some stupid shit.

[Grog]

or archaos just doesn't give a shit. wasn't he supporting your side anyway?

[Monroe]

or archaos just doesn't give a shit. wasn't he supporting your side anyway?

I dont know. I was actually looking forward for someone to step up and seriously defend gun bans so i could shut them down in a spectacular fashion, but I think everyone realized that my intelect is too great to fuck with so they dodged.

[Tengil]

Yes, the answer always got to be something that has to do with how great you are.

[Perant]

Or most likely they would have robbed the store but met the police outside and got caught and convicted and noone would have been physcially harmed.

i lol'd

'cause you were joking, right? that was a joke? it was funny

[Jadien]

Mmm surströmming. :em_luv:

Damn that shit sounds fucken sick, I had to google it and almost gagged reading about it. Damn and I thought Choriso (some mexican type of food) was nasty...

[Tengil]

i lol'd

'cause you were joking, right? that was a joke? it was funny

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/9527/howdoijf1.jpg

[Monroe]

Damn that shit sounds fucken sick, I had to google it and almost gagged reading about it. Damn and I thought Choriso (some mexican type of food) was nasty...

How are oyu not in jail yet

[Talorth]

Everyone is a vigilante, it is just that simple.

Monroe, I can't be bothered answering your question because the hypothetical is so situational you are just trying to make your point look good. For the record, I do not hate guns, I don't believe the guns themselves kill people.

[Jadien]

How are oyu not in jail yet

I am in Jail, like your black buddy, we're allowed to use the net and MySpace now.

[Monroe]

I am in Jail, like your black buddy, we're allowed to use the net and MySpace now.

oh

[Archaos]

or archaos just doesn't give a shit. wasn't he supporting your side anyway?

Correct sir. I do not give a shit.

Though before I was arguing with monroe against the gun haters, I've lost my motivation.

[Grog]

such an aggravation

[Talorth]

I like penises.

[Damarus]

Monroe I think we already went through the fact that England and Australia aren't full of hundreds of thousands of crazy people with tonnes of guns who run around robbing people and starting gun battles on a daily basis. It's stupid to even try to argue with you because you are obvlivious to this... The majority of hold ups occur with knives or fake guns down here, and basically every time they get caught. Probly because our cops arent busy stuffing their faces with donuts and trying to hide from all the citizens running around waving guns around and all your gangs all over the streets (I'm not blaming gun laws or anything for gangs, but its something we dont have a problem with here).

There's also a reason insurance exists, we are of the opinion that a bit of money lost is a much happier outcome than a gun battle... Mind you I'm all for population control in the US, you seem to have a lot of people that could use a good culling so I'm not going to complain with how the situation was handled.

[Hetzle]

Contrary to popular belief, US cops tend not to eat donuts, don't believe Reno 911 or the Simpsons, the ones down here are pretty good at their job.

[Alrus]

Contrary to popular belief, US cops tend not to eat donuts, don't believe Reno 911 or the Simpsons, the ones down here are pretty good at their job.

But they'll be too busy handcuffing teenagers writing on their school boards.

And Monroe, all the communist government in East Europa got taken down by a population who didn't have any weapon, guns aren't the only way of resisting against the opressors, but you're great intellect should already know that I guess?

[Tyriael]

Oh noes he attacked my country i'm gonna go slit my wrists now becuase I just love it so much!

Oh and by the way you spell Sweden with just one "e"

By the way, you spell mistake with just one "s". I always laugh when people try to correct someone's spelling yet makes a "misstake" themselves.

[Grog]

what's his first language? =O!!!

[Tyriael]

what's his first language? =O!!!
Whether it be because he is retarded or it isn't his primary language, he should still not attempt to correct people spelling when he cannot spell either, as it makes him look like an idiot.

[WiGgLr]

Contrary to popular belief, US cops tend not to eat donuts, don't believe Reno 911 or the Simpsons, the ones down here are pretty good at their job.

So very good:
SUsNv45ixwM

[Damarus]

Whether it be because he is retarded or it isn't his primary language, he should still not attempt to correct people spelling when he cannot spell either, as it makes him look like an idiot.Monroe has spelt Sweden incorrectly about 50 times now... It's fairly bad if you ask me, to spell a correct noun wrong so frequently. HooB spells one word wrong in his non-primary language and you think he's an idiot?

Also if your username is supposed to be in reference to what I think it is, it should be spelt Tyrael ;)

[Tyriael]

I am quite aware of the spelling of Archangel Tyrael from Diablo II, however it was (obviously) already taken, so this was the closest alternative for my WoW character that was available.

And I never said he was an idiot, I just think it looks bad for him to call someone out for spelling something wrong when he spelled a word incorrectly in his previous post.

[WiGgLr]

Who called the grammar police?

[HooB]

I am quite aware of the spelling of Archangel Tyrael from Diablo II, however it was (obviously) already taken, so this was the closest alternative for my WoW character that was available.

And I never said he was an idiot, I just think it looks bad for him to call someone out for spelling something wrong when he spelled a word incorrectly in his previous post.

If I were to call out monroe on spelling issues I would have to make a post for almost every post he has done. I just thought it would be nice to spell my country right when he was bashing it :p

[Tyriael]

Who called the grammar police?

Ask HooB.

[Tengil]

Wow. Tyriael needs someone to untwist his nipples.

[Tyriael]

I'm sure you will be the first to volunteer. :-o

[Tengil]

I'm sure you will be the first to volunteer. :-o
You know it! :em_luv:

[Monroe]

Monroe I think we already went through the fact that England and Australia aren't full of hundreds of thousands of crazy people with tonnes of guns who run around robbing people and starting gun battles on a daily basis. It's stupid to even try to argue with you because you are obvlivious to this... The majority of hold ups occur with knives or fake guns down here, and basically every time they get caught. Probly because our cops arent busy stuffing their faces with donuts and trying to hide from all the citizens running around waving guns around and all your gangs all over the streets (I'm not blaming gun laws or anything for gangs, but its something we dont have a problem with here).

There's also a reason insurance exists, we are of the opinion that a bit of money lost is a much happier outcome than a gun battle... Mind you I'm all for population control in the US, you seem to have a lot of people that could use a good culling so I'm not going to complain with how the situation was handled.

You are so clueless its funny.

THis is what happens in australia:
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,21713154-421,00.html

Bad guys are armed with guns, because to them the ban means jack shit, they break the laws anyway. The hardworking law abiding citizens, however, are unarmed, and a good guy gets shot. If those people were properly armed and had training it would have been the perps who would be dead.

But will insurance replace your lost loved one if a perp shoots her while you watch helplessly because you are unarmed? You have this naive view that even though a bad guy has a gun, he somehow wont shoot you with it.

[Grog]

ring a ding, hide your bling

[MrsDemon]

You are so clueless its funny.

THis is what happens in australia:
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,21713154-421,00.html

Bad guys are armed with guns, because to them the ban means jack shit, they break the laws anyway. The hardworking law abiding citizens, however, are unarmed, and a good guy gets shot. If those people were properly armed and had training it would have been the perps who would be dead.

But will insurance replace your lost loved one if a perp shoots her while you watch helplessly because you are unarmed? You have this naive view that even though a bad guy has a gun, he somehow wont shoot you with it.

we have gun laws and that happens here

[Alrus]

Do we really need to have another discussion abouts guns law?

[Monroe]

i just like shutting stupid kids down

[Grog]

yeah we got that

[Hetzle]

But they'll be too busy handcuffing teenagers writing on their school boards.

And Monroe, all the communist government in East Europa got taken down by a population who didn't have any weapon, guns aren't the only way of resisting against the opressors, but you're great intellect should already know that I guess?
I've never seen anyone get arrested for that, the majority of cops down here tend to bust kids for drugs, and mostly driving shit.

There haven't been any robberies around my area for as long as I've lived here (10 years or so now).

[Damarus]

Shutting kids down? Lol.

YOU are the clueless one.

a) We don't ban guns
b) Woohooooooo! You found 1 shooting in Australia after probably googling for hours. There were no fatalities, and the guy only got shot coz he was stupid enough to try and stop him.
c) You also picked an incident that happened after my post, also one of the only incidents I've read of this year.

If you went through the rest of that site, you will notice the only other 3 articles related to guns, were:
- Gunman caught by police who were using fake guns to rob fast food outlets
- Siege stopped by police without a single gun victim
- Gun and drug bust successful

So Monroe, how many shootings in the US this past month. 100? 300? 2000? Yes I am the clueless one who thinks my country is as fucked as yours. Nice way to shut me down, kid. Go back to your mum's fat tit or something (I figure thats the sort of comment that will reach your wavelength).

[Archaos]

Gotta remember, US has a little bigger population that good ole Aussie land.

[Talorth]

still doesnt equate, there is more gun related deaths in the states per person than australia.

[Bonk]

English police dont carry guns ether you stupid faggot, and there is like no chance that the robbers wouldnt open up on unarmed civilians just for the hell of it.

You should qualify what you type, you say English police don't carry guns, that's statement is totally incorrect. If you'd said "not all english police" then you would be somewhat correct.

Most "robbers" don't set out to kill people, they use weapons to threaten in a fashion to get what they want.

Monroe, what would the world be like if Pearl Harbor was never bombed?

[Bonk]

You are so clueless its funny.

THis is what happens in australia:
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,21713154-421,00.html

Bad guys are armed with guns, because to them the ban means jack shit, they break the laws anyway. The hardworking law abiding citizens, however, are unarmed, and a good guy gets shot. If those people were properly armed and had training it would have been the perps who would be dead.

But will insurance replace your lost loved one if a perp shoots her while you watch helplessly because you are unarmed? You have this naive view that even though a bad guy has a gun, he somehow wont shoot you with it.

The world is flat.

[Archaos]

still doesnt equate, there is more gun related deaths in the states per person than australia.

oh for sure. I'm just saying, you have to consider that.

[Alrus]

Gotta remember, US has a little bigger population that good ole Aussie land.

Yeah and Europe as a whole has a bigger population than the US, and still has less gunshot as far as I know.

[MrsDemon]

how much do you know?

[Alrus]

how much do you know?

I couldn't find the figures for the past 5 years to be honnest, but in 2002 (it's a bit old I know, if someone find any more recent figures it'll be good), in Europe there was 1260 murders by firearm for 376 millions of inhabitants. The same year, there was 10 801 murders by firearm for 275 millions of inhabitants. Proportionally that's 12 times more murders than in europe.

Now as I said I don't have the figures for 2005-2006. Maybe it changed drastically in 4 years but I kinda doubt it.

[Bonk]

Yeah i think it did change drastically, in the US it went up by 10 times as money was poured into warfare instead of into funding to help it's people. They simply got bored and shot each other. /end sarcasm

[Damarus]

Bonk wins this thread.

[Monroe]

Shutting kids down? Lol.

YOU are the clueless one.

a) We don't ban guns



Australia bans all guns and I htink rifles too.


b) Woohooooooo! You found 1 shooting in Australia after probably googling for hours. There were no fatalities, and the guy only got shot coz he was stupid enough to try and stop him.



Took me 5min tops to find it. Most of that time was searching for australian newspapers in general, I found that article in the first newspaper I looked. Im sure if I looked more I would find dozens more articles, but whats the point, I already proved you wrong when you paint this picture like there is no crime in Australia.

And god forbid a man tried to defend his place of business, something he worked hard for. Nah, he should just give up his hard earned money to robbers because they asked. You are a fucken pussy and a coward if you think that way.


c) You also picked an incident that happened after my post, also one of the only incidents I've read of this year.


I just posted the first link I found about a gun crime in australia.


If you went through the rest of that site, you will notice the only other 3 articles related to guns, were:
- Gunman caught by police who were using fake guns to rob fast food outlets
- Siege stopped by police without a single gun victim
- Gun and drug bust successful


So what? its just 1 news paper, it doesnt cover every single crime that happend all over australia.

[Talorth]

And god forbid a man tried to defend his place of business, something he worked hard for. Nah, he should just give up his hard earned money to robbers because they asked. You are a fucken pussy and a coward if you think that way.

Lol, I don't care so much if someone wants to try and defend what is rightfully theirs.... But it isn't cowardly or pussy not to ROFL. Sometimes there are things that are actually worth fighting for, some of us realize that certain things aren't. Now, if they were threatening my life, that is different.


Polar never suggested that there isn't crime in Australia. Get your head out of your ass. Also, there are no complete gun bans in Aus. Their laws are just more strict.

[Grog]

SHUTDOWN SONNNN

[Zelandra]

oh for sure. I'm just saying, you have to consider that.

Foreign people, besides myself, considering facts in discussions about the US? Are you crazy!? All "facts" about the US are made up on the spot!

I heard all citizens eat babies for lunch, and now it's valid.

[Talorth]

Yeah, theres probably more gun related deaths in the states and the rest of the world as it is :P

Zel I wouldn't say necessarily the facts are misconstrued. However, alot of the generalizations about the US are false.

Jerry Springer ftw btw.

[Damascus]

FACT

[Grindrolas]

U_OtPc4dNyI

While I realize this is a FICTIONAL story, the point remains, the USA has had presidents, or people running for president, shot and killed, who were surrounded by secret service. Not just from afar, but up close and personal. I posted this as counter-argument to those of you who believe the VATech, and any other shootings, which occur in the USA would have been stopped if everyone carried a gun.

edit: RAGE monroe, RAGE!

[Damarus]

Australia bans all guns and I htink rifles too.....lol

Took me 5min tops to find it. Most of that time was searching for australian newspapers in general, I found that article in the first newspaper I looked.That's a website with Australia wide news, not a newspaper.

I already proved you wrong when you paint this picture like there is no crime in Australia.If you think that was my point, you have less hope than the offspawn George Bush.

And god forbid a man tried to defend his place of business, something he worked hard for. Nah, he should just give up his hard earned money to robbers because they asked. You are a fucken pussy and a coward if you think that way.Straight up yo, coz its VEWY SMERT to run around trying to attack anyone who takes away a bit of insured possessions from you, instead of just letting the cops deal with it. It seems to me that in America, it's all about being a badass and saving the day "I AM TEH SUPERHERO! FEEL MY REDNECK WRATH".

So what? its just 1 news paper, it doesnt cover every single crime that happend all over australia.Like I said before, it pretty much does. It draws from basically all news sources.

[Zelandra]

Zel I wouldn't say necessarily the facts are misconstrued. However, alot of the generalizations about the US are false.


Thank you for realizing that. Honestly, I find it humorous to "argue" with kids just to see what kind of crap they make up about the US.

The US is actually constructed 100% of oil, the US just wants to fuck with the Middle East. Fact.

[Grog]

I find it humorous to "argue" with kids just to see what kind of crap they make up about the US

i just like shutting stupid kids down

D:

[Victis]

Thank you for realizing that. Honestly, I find it humorous to "argue" with kids just to see what kind of crap they make up about the US.

The US is actually constructed 100% of oil, the US just wants to fuck with the Middle East. Fact.

Yes, every American goes to work with the motivation to obtain more oil.

[Zelandra]

Yes, every American goes to work with the motivation to obtain more oil.

YOU MISSED THE POINT! THEY'RE MADE OUT OF OIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Victis]

You rejoice when an oil tanker capsizes? :O

[Zelandra]

You rejoice when an oil tanker capsizes? :O

A TANKER MADE OF OIL CARRYING OIL!!!! MIND BOGGLING D: