The Amero is almost here!!!!

[Will]

I guess there are still a few people out there who DON'T believe this is happening. If you thought you were safe in Canada from the poison of our corrupt American culture....think again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hiPrsc9g98

[Perant]

first

[Grindrolas]

I guess there are still a few people out there who DON'T believe this is happening. If you thought you were safe in Canada from the poison of our corrupt American culture....think again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hiPrsc9g98
I'm sorry, but where in your "intelligent" skull does it make sense for US (being Canada) to take on your debt w/ a unified currency? We're well on our way out of ours thanks to our previous governments. Stop stirring the pot Will...

[Hetzle]

Compelling youtube evidence!

...

The audio isn't even synced to their voices, and what they lip doesn't seem to coincide with the audio, not only that, but the sound quality seems to bad that it seems as if it wasn't even from a real newscast.

I'll believe it when I see it elsewhere.

[BLACK]

Probably done by Will himself in his parents' basement.

[Archaos]

I have a hard time believing that as well.

[Will]

Probably done by Will himself in his parents' basement.

LOL Mr. Confusion, I haven't lived with my parents for 17 yrs.

[Will]

I have a hard time believing that as well.

I had a very hard time believing it myself. However, that doesn't change the fact that Mexico, America, and Canada are BEING MERGED AS WE SPEAK.

[Will]

Compelling youtube evidence!

...

The audio isn't even synced to their voices, and what they lip doesn't seem to coincide with the audio, not only that, but the sound quality seems to bad that it seems as if it wasn't even from a real newscast.

I'll believe it when I see it elsewhere.

If you like, I can send you pages and pages to back this up.

[Will]

I'm sorry, but where in your "intelligent" skull does it make sense for US (being Canada) to take on your debt w/ a unified currency? We're well on our way out of ours thanks to our previous governments. Stop stirring the pot Will...

Well, I can't speak to the economics because quite frankly I am not privy to all of the information regarding it. However, I can tell you with great certainty that your country and mine are going to be one. You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile.

Seriously, if you are against this, like I am, then I will send you some info so you can fight it from your side of the border; while there is still a border. If not, you can go back to sleep, but when you wake up, you might be singing "I'm a Yankee Doodle Dandee".

/end pot stir

[Grindrolas]

well, i can;t speak to the economics because quite frankly I am not privy to all of the information regarding it. However, I can tell you with great certainty that your country and mine are going to be one. You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile.

/end pot stir
Well, there goes any idea that I may have had of your trying to provoke intelligent conversation.

[Will]

Well, there goes any idea that I may have had of your trying to provoke intelligent conversation.

You didn't really answer my query as to whether or not you want to fight this. Are you just going to remain in denial about it?

[Alrus]

Hmm, how can you fall for every fucking conspiracy video you see on the net? Merging countries doesn't happen over some months >.>

[Grindrolas]

You didn't really answer my query as to whether or not you want to fight this. Are you just going to remain in denial about it?
I've stated numerous times for you Will, and I'll do so again. This kind of change would be brought to a VOTE to the PEOPLE here in CANADA. The very IDEA of it (which our politicians haven't even DARED to bring up yet) would cause an UPROAR. You have ZERO idea of what your neighbours to the north think, or feel, about this subject, making you very ignorant.

The differences between our nations legal systems alone would stop this from happening, but keep living in your dream world.

[Damascus]

Guys wait.

[Perant]

yo, i'm amped. nationwide appreciation for hockey will skyrocket. i can't wait. then the national sport will be the NHL, and maybe the Islanders will make it past the first round that season.

[Damascus]

No Perant, I said wait. Just wait.

[Will]

Hmm, how can you fall for every fucking conspiracy video you see on the net? Merging countries doesn't happen over some months >.>

Its been going on since 2005 (I think). How can you disbelieve everything you don't see on the mainstream?

[Grindrolas]

Its been going on since 2005 (I think). How can you disbelieve everything you don't see on the mainstream?
Sorry, it hasn't been. Our countries WORK together, but we will never be ONE.

I'm gonna stop justifying your retarded, uninformed posts with replies shortly here, because you don't respond with anything remotely intelligent.

IT WAS POSTED ON THE INTERNET, SO IT MUST BE TRUE!

[Will]

Guys, in all seriousness, how can you all be this naive? Please read through the following links and then tell me how crazy I am and how this is just another internet conspiracy (that I have been duped into believing).

http://www.spp.gov/

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2005/03/20050323-1.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_and_Prosperity_Partnership_of_North_Ameri ca

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=52357

http://stopspp.com/stopspp/

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=15233

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=52230

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=North_American_Union

http://www.newswithviews.com/Yates/steven23.htm

http://www.augustreview.com/issues/general/toward_a_north_american_union_200608181/

Want some more? Grindrolas, please wipe the crust out of your eyes and stop bullshitting, you will never stop responding to my posts :p

[Archaos]

All hail Emperor Bush? lol

[Grindrolas]

Want some more? Grindrolas, please wipe the crust out of your eyes and stop bullshitting, you will never stop responding to my posts :p
I'll respond once you prove to me that you have an understanding of OUR political process. Until then, I'm done with your posts that you claim are made to provoke intelligent conversation, but in reality are made to provoke anger and annoyance.

[Monroe]

who the fuck cares about canada, they cant even control their indians, LOLOOLOLOLOL. O noes, everyone hail chief big cloud he is about to do the war dance!!!

http://www.thestar.com/News/article/205732

[Will]

I'll respond once you prove to me that you have an understanding of OUR political process. Until then, I'm done with your posts that you claim are made to provoke intelligent conversation, but in reality are made to provoke anger and annoyance.

Oy ve...you refuse to examine the evidence even when it stares you in the face. I don't want to make you angry, I want to wake you up. I can appreciate that waking people up does tend to make them angry but that is not my true motive so I hope you understand. Dude, I have never seen someone in so much denial. I'll pray for you.

[Will]

who the fuck cares about canada, they cant even control their indians, LOLOOLOLOLOL. O noes, everyone hail chief big cloud he is about to do the war dance!!!

http://www.thestar.com/News/article/205732

I care, do you want to be part of Canada? Fuck that.

[Will]

All hail Emperor Bush? lol

Motherfuck that.

[Medicalelf]

I thought that they did that long time ago. I remember talking about that in the Phils. with my husband, his boss and his co-worker.

[Will]

I thought that they did that long time ago. I remember talking about that in the Phils. with my husband, his boss and his co-worker.

They have been at it since 2005 officially (unofficially).

[Medicalelf]

Is it a good thing? All of them are against it though(the people I talk to)

[Monroe]

I care, do you want to be part of Canada? Fuck that.

Ya, thats my point exactly. They cant even control a pack of drunken injuns, you really expect them to affect the politics of the united states? If they tried to start some shit in United States the round eye would bring the swat teams kick themm back to reservation and confiscate all their molson too.

[Will]

Is it a good thing? All of them are against it though(the people I talk to)

My opinion is no, it is not a good thing. It will allow a mass influx of immigrants like we have never seen. America (at least that portion which used to be America) will become like a 3rd world country.

The list of "jobs that Americans won't do" (for a slave wage) will grow and the middle and lower classes will become completely impoverished. We will be left with a mega elite, and a lower class.

This merger benefits corporations, not nations.

[WiGgLr]

LOL

Massive wall of links scares the shit out of you for 345312 damage.
You die!

[WiGgLr]

fuck, there was another page

[Articula]

This will never happen. Pipedreams of the few.

[Perant]

i hope it does happen. that way, it won't be a dumb conspiracy anymore, and will won't post about it.

[Will]

Ya, thats my point exactly. They cant even control a pack of drunken injuns, you really expect them to affect the politics of the united states? If they tried to start some shit in United States the round eye would bring the swat teams kick themm back to reservation and confiscate all their molson too.

I don't get the sense that Canada is leading this charge, its seems they are going along with our, uh, government.

[Will]

i hope it does happen. that way, it won't be a dumb conspiracy anymore, and will won't post about it.

Thank you for that bit of eloquence and articulation :)

[Will]

This will never happen. Pipedreams of the few.

Check the links on page 1, it is happening.

[Perant]

Thank you for that bit of eloquence and articulation :)

np dawg

[Monroe]

I don't get the sense that Canada is leading this charge, its seems they are going along with our, uh, government.

I dont see this as that big of a deal, really. At least next time I want to go pike fishing I wont have to change my dollars into monopoly money.

[Will]

I dont see this as that big of a deal, really. At least next time I want to go pike fishing I wont have to change my dollars into monopoly money.

Dude, what do you think is going to come from Mexico if there isn't even the pretense of a border?

[Monroe]

The wall will stop them

[Will]

The wall will stop them


The wall won't matter after they open up the gates.

[Craysh]

How would having a unified currency make us one country?
Having one currency wouldn't automatically give Canada our budget, nor would it give them our debt.
When they say border-less they mean currency wise, not literally no-borders.


I personally wouldn't mind a Grand Unified Currency across the world, but it won't happen. Nor will an Amero work out because countries (even though they have trade agreements not to) price fix their money whenever possible. They wouldn't be able to do this if their was a common currency.

[Will]

How would having a unified currency make us one country?
Having one currency wouldn't automatically give Canada our budget, nor would it give them our debt.
When they say border-less they mean currency wise, not literally no-borders.


I personally wouldn't mind a Grand Unified Currency across the world, but it won't happen. Nor will an Amero work out because countries (even though they have trade agreements not to) price fix their money whenever possible. They wouldn't be able to do this if their was a common currency.

Check the links, it's more then just a currency change. The following states, who obviously don't think this is just some internet conspiracy, have already put forward Anti-NAU legislation:

Oregan

http://www.jbs.org/node/2778

Montana

http://www.jbs.org/node/2871

Idaho

http://aftermathnews.wordpress.com/2007/03/17/idaho-14th-state-to-introduce-anti-north-american-union-resolution/

Fuckit, Im not gonna link to all the states anti NAU legislation but there are a total of 14:

Idaho represents the 14th state to introduce anti-NAU and SPP resolutions. The other states include Arizona (S.C.M. 1002), Illinois (H.J.R. 29), Georgia (S.R. 124), Missouri (S.C.R. 15 and H.C.R. 33), Montana (H.J.R. 25), Oklahoma (S.C.R. 10), Oregon (S.J.M. 5), South Carolina (S. 416 and H. 3185), South Dakota (S.C.R. 7), Tennessee (S.J.R. 88), Utah (H.J.R. 7), Virginia (S.J.R. 442 and S.J.R. 387), and Washington (H.J.M. 4018 and S.J.M. 8004).
Now, if all these states feel the need to put forward Anti-NAU legislation, then why does everyone still think it is an internet conspiracy? I'll tell you, it's the power of propaganda and it is a testament to what our mainstream media has become, nothing more then a mouthpiece for corporations and the global elite. If you want the news stop watching television and listening to the radio.

/end rant

[Talorth]

NAU sounds too close to UN for my tastes... can't we call it like... Unified Shit Burger or MBHA (Mexican Border Hopper Alliance?)

[Monroe]

This whole thread/argument is silly. I wasnt really arguing any point, I just needed some pseudo reason to post that article where a bunch of drunken indians managed to shut down the biggest train line in canada, and the canadian trasportation minister is PLEADING with them to stop, and they just laughed at him and told him to fuck off.

I think that article alone proves what a worthless piece of shit country canada is, and how pathetic the canadians are.

Now lets go back to gun control thread since thats the topic I actually care about.

[Will]

NAU sounds too close to UN for my tastes... can't we call it like... Unified Shit Burger or MBHA (Mexican Border Hopper Alliance?)

Call it anything you like but realize it's happening. If you are against it, do something about it, like I am.

[Will]

This whole thread/argument is silly. I wasnt really arguing any point, I just needed some pseudo reason to post that article where a bunch of drunken indians managed to shut down the biggest train line in canada, and the canadian trasportation minister is PLEADING with them to stop, and they just laughed at him and told him to fuck off.

I think that article alone proves what a worthless piece of shit country canada is, and how pathetic the canadians are.

Now lets go back to gun control thread since thats the topic I actually care about.

And we will be among them by 2010.

[Talorth]

I think that article alone proves what a worthless piece of shit country canada is, and how pathetic the canadians are.


If you want to exclaim how pathetic Canadians are you could actually say something about Bountiful BC.

There is so much wrong with this country I could talk for a few hours. But at the same time, I don't believe the US is any better.

[Monroe]

If you want to exclaim how pathetic Canadians are you could actually say something about Bountiful BC.

There is so much wrong with this country I could talk for a few hours. But at the same time, I don't believe the US is any better.

The day indians shut down Amtrak and our transportation minister will beg them to stop is the day I agree with you

[Craysh]

There is so much wrong with this country I could talk for a few hours. But at the same time, I don't believe the US is any better.

A Perfect Nation is a Nation of the Dead.

[Craysh]

The day indians shut down Amtrak and our transportation minister will beg them to stop is the day I agree with you

Our transportation board would just get those cow bumpers up on the trains and slowly push the bus out of the way hehe.

[Will]

Grindy? You there man?

[Grog]

i think he's off somewhere gnashing his teeth

[WiGgLr]

I dont see this as that big of a deal, really. At least next time I want to go pike fishing I wont have to change my dollars into monopoly money.

That's one of the main benefits of a unified currency. Price transparancy across borders being another.

Will, you really are a scaremongerer. Having the Euro as a shared currency across many European countries has done nothing to diminish the individuality of those countries.

[Grog]

/end rant
i don't see that happening any time soon

[Will]

That's one of the main benefits of a unified currency. Price transparancy across borders being another.

Will, you really are a scaremongerer. Having the Euro as a shared currency across many European countries has done nothing to diminish the individuality of those countries.

Ok, if I'm a scaremongerer then you are a sheep. Having the Euro has allowed you to compete on a more even playing field with the US (and that was one of the purposes). However, this is not just about currency, it's about control and consolidation of power.



A one world government does not benefit the citizens of the world but this is what we are moving twords nonetheless. The EU, like the proposed NAU, represent giant steps in that direction.



If this proposed NAU is so good for the people of Canada, Mexico, and America, then how come so few know it's happening. Why is it being done, for the most part, in secret (outside the mainstream media). Grindrolas is in a total state of shock and denial because most citizens of the aforementioned countries like their borders and like their national sovereignty. They, like me, have a very difficult time imagining that their governments would completely sell out their interests in favor of corporate interests (and behind their backs to boot). Why is it that there has been an almost total black out in our mainstream press in regards to the NAU?
Because we don't fucking want it. And the fact that it has progressed to the point it has sans any congressional oversight (or similar oversight in Mexico and Canada), tells me all I need to know.



Back to scaremongering; I am scared. My country is about to be erased in favor of some third world nightmare that won't even resemble the country that those before me bled and died to erect. That bothers me on a very personal level. If you are happy with how the EU has worked out for you guys then grats. We don't want it, no matter what you might think the benefits are.

[Will]

i don't see that happening any time soon

:p

[WiGgLr]

Ok, if I'm a scaremongerer then you are a sheep. Having the Euro has allowed you to compete on a more even playing field with the US (and that was one of the purposes). However, this is not just about currency, it's about control and consolidation of power.
I don't have the euro, I have the pound.


A one world government does not benefit the citizens of the world but this is what we are moving twords nonetheless. The EU, like the proposed NAU, represent giant steps in that direction.
...which will take many decades to become a reality, perhaps even hundreds of years.

If this proposed NAU is so good for the people of Canada, Mexico, and America, then how come so few know it's happening. Why is it being done, for the most part, in secret (outside the mainstream media). Grindrolas is in a total state of shock and denial because most citizens of the aforementioned countries like their borders and like their national sovereignty. They, like me, have a very difficult time imagining that their governments would completely sell out their interests in favor of corporate interests (and behind their backs to boot). Why is it that there has been an almost total black out in our mainstream press in regards to the NAU?
Because we don't fucking want it. And the fact that it has progressed to the point it has sans any congressional oversight (or similar oversight in Mexico and Canada), tells me all I need to know.

Back to scaremongering; I am scared. My country is about to be erased in favor of some third world nightmare that won't even resemble the country that those before me bled and died to erect. That bothers me on a very personal level. If you are happy with how the EU has worked out for you guys then grats. We don't want it, no matter what you might think the benefits are.
You talk as if it's going to happen right away. The EU started getting talked about in 1951, look how long it has taken them to get as far along as they are now.

[Will]

I don't have the euro, I have the pound.

So you aren't a part of the EU but you can speak intelligently about how the people of that collective feel about the EU...ok.


...which will take many decades to become a reality, perhaps even hundreds of years.

Convincing yourself that this type of change will take hundreds of years is naivety personified. The NAU is slated to be up and running in 2010.

You talk as if it's going to happen right away. The EU started getting talked about in 1951, look how long it has taken them to get as far along as they are now.

It is happening right now. The NAFTA superhighway is under construction (the Texas corridor is already built). I guess like everything else, its faster the second time. They have also been talking about a new world order since the 50's. Truth be told, the preparation for this has already taken place. We already have the strict population control measures and police powers necessary to control a large disaffected populace (see the War on Terror and vague definitions on what a terrorist is in order to see this more clearly).

This is a lot further along then you think. It it will happen much faster then you believe.

[WiGgLr]

So you aren't a part of the EU but you can speak intelligently about how the people of that collective feel about the EU...ok.


The UK is part of the EU. Having the Euro as your currency is not a requirement.

[Will]

The UK is part of the EU. Having the Euro as your currency is not a requirement.

And how do you know that the people of the EU do not feel that their national sovereignty has been diminished (other then you in the UK I mean)?

[Grog]

how do YOU know?

[Will]

how do YOU know?

I never claimed I knew how anyone in the EU feels about it; I do know how I feel, how most (in America) who find out about the NAU feels, and I also know how the 14 states who have already proposed anti-NAU legislation feel. A quick search reveals the following regarding the EU:



Former Soviet Dissident Warns For EU Dictatorship

From the desk of Paul Belien (http://www.brusselsjournal.com/paulbelien) on Mon, 2006-02-27 22:13
http://www.brusselsjournal.com/files/bukovsky-1.jpgBukovsky and Belien

Vladimir Bukovksy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bukovsky), the 63-year old former Soviet dissident, fears that the European Union is on its way to becoming another Soviet Union. In a speech he delivered in Brussels last week Mr Bukovsky called the EU a “monster” that must be destroyed, the sooner the better, before it develops into a fullfledged totalitarian state. Mr Bukovsky paid a visit to the European Parliament on Thursday at the invitation of Fidesz (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarian_Civic_Union), the Hungarian Civic Forum. Fidesz, a member of the European Christian Democrat group, had invited the former Soviet dissident over from England, where he lives, on the occasion of this year’s 50th anniversary of the 1956 Hungarian Uprising (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarian_Uprising). After his morning meeting with the Hungarians, Mr Bukovsky gave an afternoon speech in a Polish restaurant in the Trier straat, opposite the European Parliament, where he spoke at the invitation of the United Kingdom Independence Party (http://www.ukip.org/ukip_news/gen12.php?t=1&id=1809), of which he is a patron.

An interview with Vladimir Bukovsky about the impending EUSSR
In his speech Mr Bukovsky referred to confidential documents from secret Soviet files which he was allowed to read in 1992. These documents confirm the existence of a “conspiracy” to turn the European Union into a socialist organization. I attended the meeting and taped the speech. A transcript, as well as the audio fragment (approx. 15 minutes) can be found below. I also had a brief interview with Mr Bukovsky (4 minutes), a transcript and audio fragment of which can also be found below. The interview about the European Union had to be cut short because Mr Bukovsky had other engagements, but it brought back some memories to me, as I had interviewed Vladimir Bukovsky twenty years ago, in 1986, when the Soviet Union, the first monster that he so valiantly fought, was still alive and thriving. Mr Bukovsky was one of the heroes of the 20th century. As a young man he exposed the use of psychiatric imprisonment against political prisoners in the former USSR (Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, 1917-1991) and spent a total of twelve years (1964-1976), from his 22nd to his 34th year, in Soviet jails, labour camps and psychiatric institutions. In 1976 the Soviets expelled him to the West. In 1992 he was invited by the Russian government to serve as an expert testifying at the trial conducted to determine whether the Soviet Communist Party had been a criminal institution. To prepare for his testimony Mr Bukovsky was granted access to a large number of documents from Soviet secret archives. He is one of the few people ever to have seen these documents because they are still classified. Using a small handheld scanner and a laptop computer, however, he managed to copy many documents (some with high security clearance), including KGB reports to the Soviet government.
An interview with Vladimir Bukovsky
Listen to it here (http://www.brusselsjournal.com/system/files?file=bukovsky-interview.mp3)
Paul Belien: You were a very famous Soviet dissident and now you are drawing a parallel between the European Union and the Soviet Union. Can you explain this?
http://www.brusselsjournal.com/files/bukovsky-2.jpg
Vladimir Bukovsky: I am referrring to structures, to certain ideologies being instilled, to the plans, the direction, the inevitable expansion, the obliteration of nations, which was the purpose of the Soviet Union. Most people do not understand this. They do not know it, but we do because we were raised in the Soviet Union where we had to study the Soviet ideology in school and at university. The ultimate purpose of the Soviet Union was to create a new historic entity, the Soviet people, all around the globe. The same is true in the EU today. They are trying to create a new people. They call this people “Europeans”, whatever that means. According to Communist doctrine as well as to many forms of Socialist thinking, the state, the national state, is supposed to wither away. In Russia, however, the opposite happened. Instead of withering away the Soviet state became a very powerful state, but the nationalities were obliterated. But when the time of the Soviet collapse came these suppressed feelings of national identity came bouncing back and they nearly destroyed the country. It was so frightening.
PB: Do you think the same thing can happen when the European Union collapses?
VB: Absolutely, you can press a spring only that much, and the human psyche is very resilient you know. You can press it, you can press it, but don’t forget it is still accumulating a power to rebound. It is like a spring and it always goes to overshoot.
PB: But all these countries that joined the European Union did so voluntarily.
VB: No, they did not. Look at Denmark which voted against the Maastricht treaty twice. Look at Ireland [which voted against the Nice treaty]. Look at many other countries, they are under enormous pressure. It is almost blackmail. Switzerland was forced to vote five times in a referendum. All five times they have rejected it, but who knows what will happen the sixth time, the seventh time. It is always the same thing. It is a trick for idiots. The people have to vote in referendums until the people vote the way that is wanted. Then they have to stop voting. Why stop? Let us continue voting. The European Union is what Americans would call a shotgun marriage.
PB: What do you think young people should do about the European Union? What should they insist on, to democratize the institution or just abolish it?
VB: I think that the European Union, like the Soviet Union, cannot be democratized. Gorbachev tried to democratize it and it blew up. This kind of structures cannot be democratized.
PB: But we have a European Parliament which is chosen by the people.
VB: The European Parliament is elected on the basis of proportional representation, which is not true representation. And what does it vote on? The percentage of fat in yoghurt, that kind of thing. It is ridiculous. It is given the task of the Supreme Soviet. The average MP can speak for six minutes per year in the Chamber. That is not a real parliament.
Transcript of Mr Bukovsky’s Brussels speech
Listen to it here (http://www.brusselsjournal.com/system/files?file=bukovsky-speech.mp3)
In 1992 I had unprecedented access to Politburo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politburo) and Central Committee (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Committee_of_the_CPSU) secret documents which have been classified, and still are even now, for 30 years. These documents show very clearly that the whole idea of turning the European common market (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_market) into a federal state was agreed between the left-wing parties of Europe and Moscow as a joint project which [Soviet leader Mikhail] Gorbachev (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gorbachev) in 1988-89 called our “common European home (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_European_Home).”
The idea was very simple. It first came up in 1985-86, when the Italian Communists visited Gorbachev, followed by the German Social-Democrats. They all complained that the changes in the world, particularly after [British Prime Minister Margaret] Thatcher introduced privatisation and economic liberalisation, were threatening to wipe out the achievement (as they called it) of generations of Socialists and Social-Democrats – threatening to reverse it completely. Therefore the only way to withstand this onslaught of wild capitalism (as they called it) was to try to introduce the same socialist goals in all countries at once. Prior to that, the left-wing parties and the Soviet Union had opposed European integration very much because they perceived it as a means to block their socialist goals. From 1985 onwards they completely changed their view. The Soviets came to a conclusion and to an agreement with the left-wing parties that if they worked together they could hijack the whole European project and turn it upside down. Instead of an open market they would turn it into a federal state.
According to the [secret Soviet] documents, 1985-86 is the turning point. I have published most of these documents (http://www.junepress.com/coverpic.asp?BID=741). You might even find them on the internet (http://psi.ece.jhu.edu/%7Ekaplan/IRUSS/BUK/GBARC/buk.html). But the conversations they had are really eye opening. For the first time you understand that there is a conspiracy – quite understandable for them, as they were trying to save their political hides. In the East the Soviets needed a change of relations with Europe because they were entering a protracted and very deep structural crisis; in the West the left-wing parties were afraid of being wiped out and losing their influence and prestige. So it was a conspiracy, quite openly made by them, agreed upon, and worked out.
In January of 1989, for example, a delegation of the Trilateral Commission (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trilateral_Commission) came to see Gorbachev. It included [former Japanese Prime Minister Yasuhiro] Nakasone, [former French President Valéry] Giscard d’Estaing, [American banker David] Rockefeller and [former US Secretary of State Henry] Kissinger. They had a very nice conversation where they tried to explain to Gorbachev that Soviet Russia had to integrate into the financial institutions of the world, such as Gatt, the IMF and the World Bank.
In the middle of it Giscard d’Estaing suddenly takes the floor and says: “Mr President, I cannot tell you exactly when it will happen – probably within 15 years – but Europe is going to be a federal state and you have to prepare yourself for that. You have to work out with us, and the European leaders, how you would react to that, how would you allow the other Easteuropean countries to interact with it or how to become a part of it, you have to be prepared.”
This was January 1989, at a time when the [1992] Maastricht treaty had not even been drafted. How the hell did Giscard d’Estaing know what was going to happen in 15 years time? And surprise, surprise, how did he become the author of the European constitution ? A very good question. It does smell of conspiracy, doesn’t it?
Luckily for us the Soviet part of this conspiracy collapsed earlier and it did not reach the point where Moscow could influence the course of events. But the original idea was to have what they called a convergency, whereby the Soviet Union would mellow somewhat and become more social-democratic, while Western Europe would become social-democratic and socialist. Then there will be convergency. The structures have to fit each other. This is why the structures of the European Union were initially built with the purpose of fitting into the Soviet structure. This is why they are so similar in functioning and in structure.
It is no accident that the European Parliament, for example, reminds me of the Supreme Soviet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supreme_soviet). It looks like the Supreme Soviet because it was designed like it. Similary, when you look at the European Commission it looks like the Politburo. I mean it does so exactly, except for the fact that the Commission now has 25 members and the Politburo usually had 13 or 15 members. Apart from that they are exactly the same, unaccountable to anyone, not directly elected by anyone at all. When you look into all this bizarre activity of the European Union with its 80,000 pages of regulations it looks like Gosplan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gosplan). We used to have an organisation which was planning everything in the economy, to the last nut and bolt, five years in advance. Exactly the same thing is happening in the EU. When you look at the type of EU corruption, it is exactly the Soviet type of corruption, going from top to bottom rather than going from bottom to top.
If you go through all the structures and features of this emerging European monster you will notice that it more and more resembles the Soviet Union. Of course, it is a milder version of the Soviet Union. Please, do not misunderstand me. I am not saying that it has a Gulag (http://www.anneapplebaum.com/gulag/intro.html). It has no KGB (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KGB) – not yet – but I am very carefully watching such structures as Europol (http://www.europol.eu.int/) for example. That really worries me a lot because this organisation will probably have powers bigger than those of the KGB. They will have diplomatic immunity. Can you imagine a KGB with diplomatic immunity? They will have to police us on 32 kinds of crimes – two of which are particularly worrying, one is called racism, another is called xenophobia. No criminal court on earth defines anything like this as a crime [this is not entirely true, as Belgium already does so (http://flemishrepublic.org/act.htm) – [I]pb]. So it is a new crime, and we have already been warned. Someone from the British government told us that those who object to uncontrolled immigration from the Third World will be regarded as racist and those who oppose further European integration will be regarded as xenophobes. I think Patricia Hewitt (http://www.number-10.gov.uk/output/Page1394.asp) said this publicly.
Hence, we have now been warned. Meanwhile they are introducing more and more ideology. The Soviet Union used to be a state run by ideology. Today’s ideology of the European Union is social-democratic, statist, and a big part of it is also political correctness. I watch very carefully how political correctness spreads and becomes an oppressive ideology, not to mention the fact that they forbid smoking almost everywhere now. Look at this persecution of people like the Swedish pastor who was persecuted for several months (http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/538) because he said that the Bible does not approve homosexuality. France passed the same law (http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/724) of hate speech concerning gays. Britain is passing hate speech laws concerning race relations and now religious speech (http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/744), and so on and so forth. What you observe, taken into perspective, is a systematic introduction of ideology which could later be enforced with oppressive measures. Apparently that is the whole purpose of Europol. Otherwise why do we need it? To me Europol looks very suspicious. I watch very carefully who is persecuted for what and what is happening, because that is one field in which I am an expert. I know how Gulags spring up.
It looks like we are living in a period of rapid, systematic and very consistent dismantlement of democracy. Look at this Legislative and Regulatory Reform Bill (http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200506/cmbills/111/2006111.htm). It makes ministers into legislators who can introduce new laws without bothering to tell Parliament (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,6-2049791,00.html) or anyone. My immediate reaction is why do we need it? Britain survived two world wars, the war with Napoleon, the Spanish Armada, not to mention the Cold War, when we were told at any moment we might have a nuclear world war, without any need for introducing this kind legislation, without the need for suspending our civil liberaties and introducing emergency powers. Why do we need it right now? This can make a dictatorship out of your country in no time.
Today’s situation is really grim. Major political parties have been completely taken in by the new EU project. None of them really opposes it. They have become very corrupt. Who is going to defend our freedoms? It looks like we are heading towards some kind of collapse, some kind of crisis. The most likely outcome is that there will be an economic collapse in Europe, which in due time is bound to happen with this growth of expenses and taxes. The inability to create a competitive environment, the overregulation of the economy, the bureaucratisation, it is going to lead to economic collapse. Particularly the introduction of the euro was a crazy idea. Currency is not supposed to be political.
I have no doubt about it. There will be a collapse of the European Union pretty much like the Soviet Union collapsed. But do not forget that when these things collapse they leave such devastation that it takes a generation to recover. Just think what will happen if it comes to an economic crisis. The recrimination between nations will be huge. It might come to blows. Look to the huge number of immigrants from Third World countries now living in Europe. This was promoted by the European Union. What will happen with them if there is an economic collapse? We will probably have, like in the Soviet Union at the end, so much ethnic strife that the mind boggles. In no other country were there such ethnic tensions as in the Soviet Union, except probably in Yugoslavia. So that is exactly what will happen here, too. We have to be prepared for that. This huge edifice of bureaucracy is going to collapse on our heads.
This is why, and I am very frank about it, the sooner we finish with the EU the better. The sooner it collapses the less damage it will have done to us and to other countries. But we have to be quick because the Eurocrats are moving very fast. It will be difficult to defeat them. Today it is still simple. If one million people march on Brussels today these guys will run away to the Bahamas. If tomorrow half of the British population refuses to pay its taxes, nothing will happen and no-one will go to jail. Today you can still do that. But I do not know what the situation will be tomorrow with a fully fledged Europol staffed by former Stasi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stasi) or Securitate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Securitate) officers. Anything may happen.
We are losing time. We have to defeat them. We have to sit and think, work out a strategy in the shortest possible way to achieve maximum effect. Otherwise it will be too late. So what should I say? My conclusion is not optimistic. So far, despite the fact that we do have some anti-EU forces in almost every country, it is not enough. We are losing and we are wasting time.



Comment on article: just the first one I saw; I'm sure there are many more just like this.

[Grog]

A quick search...
is it ever anything more?

[Will]

is it ever anything more?

Sometimes I make it to the second page of results :p

[Alrus]

So you take some crazy russian's speach as something every european think about? Just stop trying and shut up, please.

[Digita1]

Will you remind me of Chicken Little.

The sky is not fucking falling. Calm down, son.

[Grindrolas]

Will you remind me of Chicken Little.

The sky is not fucking falling. Calm down, son.
Sure it is, didn't you know all governments will just secretly form one country behind their citizens backs overnight?

Still waiting for someone to research how the Canadian government goes about making giant changes, such as this (becoming one nation, or, in the most recent case, a province seperating from the rest of the nation).

[Digita1]

"Sir... Quebec wants to seperate from the rest of the nation..."
"Well, what!? Well, then we won't be as big! No! NO! THAT CAN'T HAPPEN!"

[Grindrolas]

"Sir... Quebec wants to seperate from the rest of the nation..."
"Well, what!? Well, then we won't be as big! No! NO! THAT CAN'T HAPPEN!"
Best part is, is our government said "you can seperate, if your population is behind you."

Quebec is still a province of Canada.

If anything close to a union between our nations were to happen, the same thing would happen, on a nationwide scale. Its called a REFERENDUM.

Thanks to Digita1 for taking the time to actually research what I was talking about as opposed to just telling me my eyes are closed because he's too fucking stubborn to think that he MIGHT be wrong.

[Digita1]

I heard about it awhile ago from my friend Andre in Canada, and I've read some replies from people talking about it on some political forums, and alot are just making jokes about how they should let Quebec secede and that they bet they will want to re-merge within a decade anyway. haha.

[Grindrolas]

I heard about it awhile ago from my friend Andre in Canada, and I've read some replies from people talking about it on some political forums, and alot are just making jokes about how they should let Quebec secede and that they bet they will want to re-merge within a decade anyway. haha.
Their demands, if it happened, were outrageous and angered those of us not part of Quebec (like keeping our currency to use as their own, but none of the debt). In the end, more of their population wanted to stay.

[Digita1]

Their demands, if it happened, were outrageous and angered those of us not part of Quebec (like keeping our currency to use as their own, but none of the debt). In the end, more of their population wanted to stay.

Hahahahaha.

"We want to secede. We want to take your money. But we don't want any ties with you."
".....No."

[LinnEva]

this is supposed to be a fun forum! FUCK OFF WITH YOUR POLITICS!!!

[Grindrolas]

this is supposed to be a fun forum! FUCK OFF WITH YOUR POLITICS!!!
TITTIES AND ASS YAY

[LinnEva]

TITTIES AND ASS YAY
qft bitch

[Talorth]

Lol quebec.

The english part of canada does have a history of fucking them over, but the seperatists are fucking dumbasses.

[Will]

So you take some crazy russian's speach as something every european think about? Just stop trying and shut up, please.

I'm sorry, how exactly did you establish his insanity? No you.

[Will]

Will you remind me of Chicken Little.

The sky is not fucking falling. Calm down, son.

What makes you think I'm anything other then calm?

And I'm definitely not your son sport.

[Will]

Sure it is, didn't you know all governments will just secretly form one country behind their citizens backs overnight?

Still waiting for someone to research how the Canadian government goes about making giant changes, such as this (becoming one nation, or, in the most recent case, a province seperating from the rest of the nation).

Did you seriously not see or visit any of the 30 or so links I provided? What are you, high?

[Will]

this is supposed to be a fun forum! FUCK OFF WITH YOUR POLITICS!!!

Don't read the thread fucktard.

[Grog]

i think the short answer is no

[Will]

i think the short answer is no

That is a short answer, I'll give you that.

[LinnEva]

Don't read the thread fucktard.
fuck off to l2blah with your politics you analpluggedtard

[Will]

fuck off to l2blah with your politics you analpluggedtard

Why don't you go fuck yourself. If you don't like what I have to say you don't have to read it. I don't seek you out to tell you to shut up, do I? Seriously. Get a grip and realize that your opinion is yours, but it really means nothing to me.

[Will]

BTW it's up to 18 states that have forwarded Anti-NAU legislation.

/thread back on track

[Grog]

noooo i wanted name calling T_T

[Grindrolas]

http://www.spp.gov/ <-- American link

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/relea...0050323-1.html <-- American link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Securit...orth_Ameri ca <-- International link, does NOT explain to me that you understand how we do things here in Canada

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=52357 <-- An anti union link, again read above, doesn't explain

http://stopspp.com/stopspp/ <-- I don't like typing the same thing three times...

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=15233 <-- American link...where is this proof that you know how we do things in Canada?

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/articl...TICLE_ID=52230 <-- Another story from America...still looking for this proof...

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php...American_Union <-- WOW, proof that the idea exists...this STILL doesn't prove to me that you have any clue how major changes occur here in Canada.

http://www.newswithviews.com/Yates/steven23.htm <-- This is more or less a blog stating that some secret meeting happened in Banff. HOLY FUCKING SHIT, YOU MEAN TO TELL ME SOME POLITICIANS MET IN SECRET AND DISCUSSED AN IDEA?!?! (not to mention people who have NO power whatsoever, everyone listed at the meeting was FORMER something)

http://www.augustreview.com/issues/g...ion_200608181/ <-- Research paper, the only one that seemed to be worth while, again though, does not mention anything about how things work up here.


After doing some reading of my own on some CANADIAN links, I've found that the idea was there when NAFTA was drawn up, but that HARPER is the politician that is pushing it on our side of the border. I'll say this again for you Will. He has a MINORITY government. He won't have a MAJORITY. Even IF he had a MAJORITY there would have to be a REFERENDUM. The ONLY thing I can see coming of this is a standardized currency that could OPTIONALLY be used (much like the EURO) and this SUPER HIGHWAY to make it easier to TRANSPORT GOODS. There is NO WAY that CANADIANS will give up our SOVEREIGNTY to be LUMPED IN with the morons to the south. To think that a country would allow something like that to happen and just shrug their shoulders is ignorant. Canadians are NOT push overs.

[LinnEva]

Why don't you go fuck yourself. If you don't like what I have to say you don't have to read it. I don't seek you out to tell you to shut up, do I? Seriously. Get a grip and realize that your opinion is yours, but it really means nothing to me.
go fuck yourself with your little gun. im sure it knows just how you like it.
go say what you want about politics on some politics board, youll have more luck in getting anything done there.
THIS IS TITTIES AND ASS BOARD!


and sometimes penis.

[Will]

http://www.spp.gov/ <-- American link

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/relea...0050323-1.html <-- American link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Securit...orth_Ameri ca <-- International link, does NOT explain to me that you understand how we do things here in Canada

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=52357 <-- An anti union link, again read above, doesn't explain

http://stopspp.com/stopspp/ <-- I don't like typing the same thing three times...

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=15233 <-- American link...where is this proof that you know how we do things in Canada?

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/articl...TICLE_ID=52230 <-- Another story from America...still looking for this proof...

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php...American_Union <-- WOW, proof that the idea exists...this STILL doesn't prove to me that you have any clue how major changes occur here in Canada.

http://www.newswithviews.com/Yates/steven23.htm <-- This is more or less a blog stating that some secret meeting happened in Banff. HOLY FUCKING SHIT, YOU MEAN TO TELL ME SOME POLITICIANS MET IN SECRET AND DISCUSSED AN IDEA?!?! (not to mention people who have NO power whatsoever, everyone listed at the meeting was FORMER something)

http://www.augustreview.com/issues/g...ion_200608181/ <-- Research paper, the only one that seemed to be worth while, again though, does not mention anything about how things work up here.


After doing some reading of my own on some CANADIAN links, I've found that the idea was there when NAFTA was drawn up, but that HARPER is the politician that is pushing it on our side of the border. I'll say this again for you Will. He has a MINORITY government. He won't have a MAJORITY. Even IF he had a MAJORITY there would have to be a REFERENDUM. The ONLY thing I can see coming of this is a standardized currency that could OPTIONALLY be used (much like the EURO) and this SUPER HIGHWAY to make it easier to TRANSPORT GOODS. There is NO WAY that CANADIANS will give up our SOVEREIGNTY to be LUMPED IN with the morons to the south. To think that a country would allow something like that to happen and just shrug their shoulders is ignorant. Canadians are NOT push overs.

You know what I have noticed about so called minority/majority governments.....when it comes down to it, they unify on the largest decisions. I can give you many examples of how this has played out in American history. That however is not Canadian history. I cannot speak to that and would only say, I hope you are right that this will never be finalized. The transformation is already underway but it isn't yet complete. Let's hope that your people and mine do get wind of what is going on and stop it.

[Will]

go fuck yourself with your little gun. im sure it knows just how you like it.
go say what you want about politics on some politics board, youll have more luck in getting anything done there.
THIS IS TITTIES AND ASS BOARD!


and sometimes penis.

You are a retard. What part of this is unclear? I don't care about your opinions. I don't care about your assertions. I don't need or want your advice. And finally, there is a specific NSFW (Not Safe For Work...in case you didn't know what the "W" stood for) folder on this forum if you are looking for porn. Have a nice day.

[LinnEva]

You are a retard. What part of this is unclear? I don't care about your opinions. I don't care about your assertions. I don't need or want your advice. And finally, there is a specific NSFW (Not Safe For Work...in case you didn't know what the "W" stood for) folder on this forum if you are looking for porn. Have a nice day.
we are argueing on a online forum board, everyone is a fucking retard.
i dont have any opinions, i dont know what assertions is, im not giving any advice. im just telling you to fuck off you inbreedhillbilly of a gay farmboy. Have a good afternoon.

[Digita1]

we are argueing on a online forum board, everyone is a fucking retard.
i dont have any opinions, i dont know what assertions is, im not giving any advice. im just telling you to fuck off you inbreedhillbilly of a gay farmboy. Have a good afternoon.

The man has never had a better point.

http://www.argaste.com/img/arguing_on_the_internet.jpg

[Will]

we are argueing on a online forum board, everyone is a fucking retard.
i dont have any opinions, i dont know what assertions is, im not giving any advice. im just telling you to fuck off you inbreedhillbilly of a gay farmboy. Have a good afternoon.

Well, it's nice that you grasp the where and the what. You do have opinions, you have stated them, and they have been directed at me. Do I need to re-quote you or do you know how to scroll up?

And in conclusion, and with the utmost care and sensitivity I can muster to your apparent condition, I say, don't go away mad, just go away. Good day.

[Will]

The man has never had a better point.

http://www.argaste.com/img/arguing_on_the_internet.jpg

He looks like a kid to me.

[Digita1]

He looks like a kid to me.

..Kay..

[Grog]

AYE

[Grog]

dee

[Grog]

kid

[Will]

It's a wonderful life for me?

[Grog]

it's a beautiful life
oh oh oh oh

[LinnEva]

Well, it's nice that you grasp the where and the what. You do have opinions, you have stated them, and they have been directed at me. Do I need to re-quote you or do you know how to scroll up?

And in conclusion, and with the utmost care and sensitivity I can muster to your apparent condition, I say, don't go away mad, just go away. Good day.
i have no opinions about the amerowhatnot.
what you talking about punk
Good evening.

[Talorth]

You know what I have noticed about so called minority/majority governments.....when it comes down to it, they unify on the largest decisions. I can give you many examples of how this has played out in American history. That however is not Canadian history. I cannot speak to that and would only say, I hope you are right that this will never be finalized. The transformation is already underway but it isn't yet complete. Let's hope that your people and mine do get wind of what is going on and stop it.

The NDP and Liberal opposition joins forces on decisions that they disagree with. This basically makes it very difficult for the conservatives to pass anything that the liberals and NDP would both disagree on.

[Will]

The NDP and Liberal opposition joins forces on decisions that they disagree with. This basically makes it very difficult for the conservatives to pass anything that the liberals and NDP would both disagree on.

TBH I don't have a good feel for what is going on in Canada. Thanks for the insight (you too Grindy). I know everyday another state says fuck no (to the NAU) so with any luck this issue will die on the vine. Then again, we haven't been too lucky as of late regarding our foreign policy (US's). We shall see.

[Grindrolas]

The NDP and Liberal opposition joins forces on decisions that they disagree with. This basically makes it very difficult for the conservatives to pass anything that the liberals and NDP would both disagree on.
QFT

[Alrus]

I'm sorry, how exactly did you establish his insanity? No you.

Well what he said in the interview was totally irrevelant (sp?) so I didn't take the time to read the rest of his speach (it's way too long, I have better thing to do). He's just being paranoid. Europe is FAR from being a federation a the moment, the parliement doesn't have much power, and any directives(not sure of the word) that comes out of the commission must be agreed by all the states (which is pretty rare) in the european union.

Saying UE obliterates the individual states is stupid.

[Will]

Well what he said in the interview was totally irrevelant (sp?) so I didn't take the time to read the rest of his speach (it's way too long, I have better thing to do). He's just being paranoid. Europe is FAR from being a federation a the moment, the parliement doesn't have much power, and any directives(not sure of the word) that comes out of the commission must be agreed by all the states (which is pretty rare) in the european union.

Saying UE obliterates the individual states is stupid.

I think what he was saying is it is progressing tword something worse. It was the first article I found but have since found out that there are anti-eu "factions" in all of the EU countries. I don't state that to say well, the EU must be all bad then...but it does show that not everyone is for it. The article also covered how many different votes it took to actually get everyone on board (and it seems it was a simple matter of getting everyone to vote over and over until it turned out the "right" way). Are you from an EU country?

[Alrus]

There's anti EU faction in every country, but generally those people are a real minority (the most anti EU candidate at the French's presidential election got 0.8%, with 85% of the population participating in the vote. That's pretty much nothing.) Generally those people just pull up some totally irrevelant facts and are considered funny by the population. But if you feel like a very minor minority (pleonasm on purpose) is more right than the rest, then I don't know what to say.

[Will]

There's anti EU faction in every country, but generally those people are a real minority (the most anti EU candidate at the French's presidential election got 0.8%, with 85% of the population participating in the vote. That's pretty much nothing.) Generally those people just pull up some totally irrevelant facts and are considered funny by the population. But if you feel like a very minor minority (pleonasm on purpose) is more right than the rest, then I don't know what to say.

Of course not! The majority should always rule. This thread wasn't meant to be a referendum on the EU but it sorta came up. I realize now that comparing the EU to the proposed NAU might not be realistic. TBH, I hadn't really looked at the EU until I started this thread. Thanks for the insight!

[Damarus]

Well it's not suprising that will could believe things like this when stuff like the following goes down in the US:

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=263345

[Hetzle]

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/752/amerofailsq1.jpg

[Will]

Well it's not suprising that will could believe things like this when stuff like the following goes down in the US:

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=263345

Still bashing America from way down under I see. Since you like funny articles: http://www.israellycool.com/blog/FunnyandOddStuff/_archives/2007/2 Now, I have traveled to your wonderful peach-pit of a country. Before I got there I was told over and over again how Australian woman love American men. Well, when I got there it was true, I never had it so easy and I could not figure out why. Why is is that woman in your country prefer men from my country over men from yours? Can you explain this? Maybe we should ask the koalas.

[Will]

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/752/amerofailsq1.jpg

Did you check the first link I provided? Try this one: http://www.amerocurrency.com/

[Damascus]

Still bashing America from way down under I see. Since you like funny articles: http://www.israellycool.com/blog/FunnyandOddStuff/_archives/2007/2 Now, I have traveled to your wonderful peach-pit of a country. Before I got there I was told over and over again how Australian woman love American men. Well, when I got there it was true, I never had it so easy and I could not figure out why. Why is is that woman in your country prefer men from my country over men from yours? Can you explain this? Maybe we should ask the koalas.

Oh, they love us just as much. It's just that people visiting are here for a shorter time and so get a compressed session of love.

[Will]

Oh, they love us just as much. It's just that people visiting are here for a shorter time and so get a compressed session of love.

No it was more then that, when we showed up we changed the whole dating dynamic in Australia. So many fights cause you guys were watching your woman flock to us. If that was the compressed love session, I'll take that any day of the week and twice on Sunday. Woman would leave invitations with pictures to "any" service member who wanted "dinner" on the quarterdeck of our ship. It didn't seem like you guys were handling your business.

[Grindrolas]

Still bashing America from way down under I see. Since you like funny articles: http://www.israellycool.com/blog/FunnyandOddStuff/_archives/2007/2 Now, I have traveled to your wonderful peach-pit of a country. Before I got there I was told over and over again how Australian woman love American men. Well, when I got there it was true, I never had it so easy and I could not figure out why. Why is is that woman in your country prefer men from my country over men from yours? Can you explain this? Maybe we should ask the koalas.
I dunno, you tell me why American women love Canadian men?

People have a thing for foreigners, thats just how it is.

No it was more then that, when we showed up we changed the whole dating dynamic in Australia. So many fights cause you guys were watching your woman flock to us. If that was the compressed love session, I'll take that any day of the week and twice on Sunday. Woman would leave invitations with pictures to "any" service member who wanted "dinner" on the quarterdeck of our ship. It didn't seem like you guys were handling your business.
Wait, is Will secretly Zelandra? Cause this is the sensational "my dad could beat up your dad" post that I'm now used to from him...

[Will]

I dunno, you tell me why American women love Canadian men?

People have a thing for foreigners, thats just how it is.


Wait, is Will secretly Zelandra? Cause this is the sensational &quot;my dad could beat up your dad&quot; post that I'm now used to from him...

Hehe, if American woman prefer Canadian bacon that is news to me. Seperate thread and poll it imo.

[Grindrolas]

Its the fact that they're foreign that draws people to them, it has nothing to do with where you're from. Not going to be here long, don't have to worry about randomly running into them. Foreigners make for good one night stands, thats all there is to it.

[Grog]

lol what's a peach pit?

[Will]

lol what's a peach pit?

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/89/peachpitzu2.jpg

[Grog]

..does that make it an insult?

[Will]

..does that make it an insult?


More of an offhand slight, not really a full blown insult. And no, Australia has never been known as a peach pit, just something I coined (and you were there to witness it).

[Talorth]

Its the fact that they're foreign that draws people to them, it has nothing to do with where you're from. Not going to be here long, don't have to worry about randomly running into them. Foreigners make for good one night stands, thats all there is to it.

lolz.

[Damarus]

I'm totally lost on how you can relate women liking men in uniforms to your country allowing a dickhead to sue someone for 65 million dollars for some $10 pants alterations. It seems you're trying to change the subject.

As far as that blog goes, I am even more confused as to how that relates to anything at all.... Some Israeli blog with an article about Koalas? Did you scroll down in that blog and notice that the nappy worn by that crazy US astronaut is being auctioned on Ebay in America?

Back on the women now, yeah so our women like a man in a uniform. It doesn't matter which country lands here really the women flock to the blokes because they can get a quickie and then not have to see them again. And what's wrong with fighting? Are you guys all chicken or something? I don't see why we can't fight you for our women if we don't want to, we are a convict nation remember - We fight each other for the sport of it (And no im not talking about legitimate boxing) Seems silly that this comes into the argument at all... Probly just be thankful we don't all walk around with glocks ready to cap your ass or however it goes down in the US. And on the topic of women, why is it that your Yankee ladies love Australian men so much? You say 'gday' to an american chick and they're like zomg osssie! I've hard nerdy as friends get full on lucky in the US just from being an Aussie. Your argument there is a dead end basically, both our women seem to like brief encounters with accented foreigners (Our women go just as crazy for latinos/italians/lebbos fyi).

[Grindrolas]

I'm totally lost on how you can relate women liking men in uniforms to your country allowing a dickhead to sue someone for 65 million dollars for some $10 pants alterations. It seems you're trying to change the subject.

As far as that blog goes, I am even more confused as to how that relates to anything at all.... Some Israeli blog with an article about Koalas? Did you scroll down in that blog and notice that the nappy worn by that crazy US astronaut is being auctioned on Ebay in America?

Back on the women now, yeah so our women like a man in a uniform. It doesn't matter which country lands here really the women flock to the blokes because they can get a quickie and then not have to see them again. And what's wrong with fighting? Are you guys all chicken or something? I don't see why we can't fight you for our women if we don't want to, we are a convict nation remember - We fight each other for the sport of it (And no im not talking about legitimate boxing) Seems silly that this comes into the argument at all... Probly just be thankful we don't all walk around with glocks ready to cap your ass or however it goes down in the US. And on the topic of women, why is it that your Yankee ladies love Australian men so much? You say 'gday' to an american chick and they're like zomg osssie! I've hard nerdy as friends get full on lucky in the US just from being an Aussie. Your argument there is a dead end basically, both our women seem to like brief encounters with accented foreigners (Our women go just as crazy for latinos/italians/lebbos fyi).
It's all about "eh?" for Canadians ;)

[Perant]

(Our women go just as crazy for latinos/italians/lebbos fyi).

how crazy? trying to figure out where to go on vacation next

[Damarus]

Lol well not overly crazy. But yeah, if you can speak a sexy language or have an accent, dress nice and you shouldnt have a hard time picking up. I guess... I assume so with the amount of them walkin around with damn hot bitches. Not being italian though I couldn't say for sure :S

[Perant]

i see, i see.

[exiledone]

this thread fucking sucks.

[Will]

I'm totally lost on how you can relate women liking men in uniforms to your country allowing a dickhead to sue someone for 65 million dollars for some $10 pants alterations. It seems you're trying to change the subject.

As far as that blog goes, I am even more confused as to how that relates to anything at all.... Some Israeli blog with an article about Koalas? Did you scroll down in that blog and notice that the nappy worn by that crazy US astronaut is being auctioned on Ebay in America?

Back on the women now, yeah so our women like a man in a uniform. It doesn't matter which country lands here really the women flock to the blokes because they can get a quickie and then not have to see them again. And what's wrong with fighting? Are you guys all chicken or something? I don't see why we can't fight you for our women if we don't want to, we are a convict nation remember - We fight each other for the sport of it (And no im not talking about legitimate boxing) Seems silly that this comes into the argument at all... Probly just be thankful we don't all walk around with glocks ready to cap your ass or however it goes down in the US. And on the topic of women, why is it that your Yankee ladies love Australian men so much? You say 'gday' to an american chick and they're like zomg osssie! I've hard nerdy as friends get full on lucky in the US just from being an Aussie. Your argument there is a dead end basically, both our women seem to like brief encounters with accented foreigners (Our women go just as crazy for latinos/italians/lebbos fyi).

You left out negroes, your woman like negroes as well! Two of the four woman I hooked up with during that three day party wrote to me for months. I kept up with one of them for a bit (some model from the NT named Lana). More then just a brief encounter. Face it, they like us better :p

[Grog]

oh shit he's onto something there

[Grindrolas]

well obviously, cause ya know, writing letters for months is the equivalent of liking him better than his aussie counter-parts.

Writing letters, why fuck a penis when you can use a pencil?!?!

[Archaos]

Pencils never go soft.

[Damarus]

So she's moving out of Aus to live with you now? Or like... are these letters the extent of Aussie girls liking you better :p

Oh and I don't mean to burst your bubble, but Northern Territory (NT) is like the only state/territory in Aus still largely dominated by aboriginals. It's basically just a tourist destination with lots of aboriginal heritage, aboriginal art and nature.

http://www.australianbedandbreakfast.com.au/northern-territory-bandb/gallery/images/aboriginal-tiwi-islands.jpg

These lovely ladies are the type of Aussie girls you tend to meet in NT. Are these the ones you hooked up with Will? They pretty much always have great stories to tell, aboriginal history/fables/stories are really quite creative and exciting. Just ask them anything about the dreamtime.

[Damascus]

ay cuz gotta gone getta goon mayt

[Zebedee]

Tourists are always happy to pay more than the locals.

[Inxile]

lol u contradict ur own sources :/

[Will]

So she's moving out of Aus to live with you now? Or like... are these letters the extent of Aussie girls liking you better :p

Oh and I don't mean to burst your bubble, but Northern Territory (NT) is like the only state/territory in Aus still largely dominated by aboriginals. It's basically just a tourist destination with lots of aboriginal heritage, aboriginal art and nature.

http://www.australianbedandbreakfast.com.au/northern-territory-bandb/gallery/images/aboriginal-tiwi-islands.jpg

These lovely ladies are the type of Aussie girls you tend to meet in NT. Are these the ones you hooked up with Will? They pretty much always have great stories to tell, aboriginal history/fables/stories are really quite creative and exciting. Just ask them anything about the dreamtime.

Not your mum, these were actual girls. :p

[Grog]

LOL YOUR MUM

[Damarus]

Not your mum, these were actual girls. :pThat's quite racist, saying aboriginal women are not in fact girls... Wouldn't expect something like that from you :)

[Grindrolas]

That's quite racist, saying aboriginals are not in fact girls... Wouldn't expect that from you :)
stop bursting Will's "I'm a sex magnet, and girls all over love me cause I'm AMERICAN, it has nothing to do with me being a foreigner" bubble :(

[Grog]

your mum!

[Grindrolas]

your mum!
NO URS

[Grog]

no ur mum!

[Grindrolas]

NO WILLS

[Will]

That's quite racist, saying aboriginal women are not in fact girls... Wouldn't expect something like that from you :)

Not racist to say an OLD CRUSTY BITCH is not a girl :p

[Will]

stop bursting Will's "I'm a sex magnet, and girls all over love me cause I'm AMERICAN, it has nothing to do with me being a foreigner" bubble :(

Thank you!

[Talorth]

Not racist to say an OLD CRUSTY BITCH is not a girl :p

ha....ha...ha...

Wait, I don't get it?