Cut your foreskin off, it'll help prevent HIV spreading?

[WiGgLr]

http://www.who.int/hiv/mediacentre/MCrecommendations_en.pdf

I think the findings would vary tremendously if the test zone was Europe where the majority of men are not circumcised

It looks too much like using statistics to make something you want to see happen

[Alrus]

I don't have the time to read it all, but is it only based on statistic? If so you can't really take that seriously.

Anyway, so far, condom is still the best way for protecting yourself.

[Craysh]

Just don't do it like the kid did in Nip/Tuck and do it yourself >.<

[BLACK]

I saw that and was like O___________O

[Craysh]

I saw that and was like O___________O
That kid had HORRIBLE luck. He thinks his GF doesn't want to have sex with him because of his foreskin.
So when his father refuses to do it he does it himself.
After he passes out from blood loss and his father does it to prevent his penis from becoming deformed lol
After he went through all this he discovers his GF is really a lesbian.
But his GF's GF isn't so sure about it so she wants a threesome with him.
They're all naked in his bed when Mother walks in LMAO

[Alrus]

lol that's totally wicked Oo But then it's Nip/Tuck so I shouldn't be surprised at all =P

[LinnEva]

im surprised the mother didnt jump in with them

[Talorth]

im surprised the mother didnt jump in with them

ROFL


I think the findings would vary tremendously if the test zone was Europe where the majority of men are not circumcised

It looks too much like using statistics to make something you want to see happen

I agree.

[damme]

http://www.who.int/hiv/mediacentre/MCrecommendations_en.pdf

I think the findings would vary tremendously if the test zone was Europe where the majority of men are not circumcised

It looks too much like using statistics to make something you want to see happen

I think they covered that in Penn & Tellers Bullshit and it was, well, bullshit.

And no way I'm cutting off a piece of my dick.

[Digita1]

Got that shit snipped when I was a young little shit.

[Talorth]

who cares anyways... its not like its a big deal either way. i mean your pretty much stupid if you think being circumcised is gonna make you HiV immune.

[Medicalelf]

what? what? waht?

Whos foreskin is intact?

[WiGgLr]

mine

[Medicalelf]

aws, don't worry my hymen is starting to grow back too :(

[WiGgLr]

aws, don't worry my hymen is starting to grow back too :(


Aww, that's sad :(

I'm having to take naps the day after Lesley stays because I'm shattered :D

[damme]

Pretty much all Europeans have their foreskins intact. Only the ones that do it for religios reasons get it cut off.

[Medicalelf]

i wanna see your foreskin Wiggle lol oohhhh I want Zebedee to tire me out hmmmm

[Medicalelf]

Pretty much all Europeans have their foreskins intact. Only the ones that do it for religios reasons get it cut off.

you too??? ohhh I wanna try that now lol

[Talorth]

my god are you always on?

[Alrus]

You mean people are circumcizing for other reasons than religion? I had no idea =/

[LinnEva]

you too??? ohhh I wanna try that now lol

i got mine and im available for a test drive or 2... or 50

[BLACK]

i got mine and im available for a test drive or 2... or 50

Yes, and my hymen is intact.

[LinnEva]

you got a hymen where?
in your ass?

i can come break it for you, ill be gentle

[mono]

You mean people are circumcizing for other reasons than religion? I had no idea =/
medical reasons...

[Medicalelf]

Ok, I'm taking down notes

uncircumsized peeps
Wiggler
Damme
Alrus
Linneva

Who else? Do they grow normal even though that they are not cut?

[LinnEva]

why wouldnt they grow normal? you can come check ;p
uncircumsized is the normal!

[Medicalelf]

+++webcam I wanna see :D erect and not erect lol

[LinnEva]

oki, but you gotta make it erect! ;-)

[Medicalelf]

oki, but you gotta make it erect! ;-)

sure :twisted:

[Tengil]

Medi something I think youve not thought of is that still having your foreskin left is the way nature intended it. Getting circumcised is the "unnatural" way. I suggest you read up on it on Wikipedia for example.

Americans try to come up with silly ideas why it shouldnt be there, but there is no medical reason why anyone should get circumcised.

Smegma (penis cheese)? Ive never had it, because its just a proof that you are a disgusting asshole who doesnt know how to clean yourself.

When my dick is limp the foreskin covers the tip of my penis, and when Im errect it has withdrawn completely from it.

During sex it makes it feel better because it adds extra friction both for me and for the girl Im with.

I wouldnt want to live without it.

[WiGgLr]

so eloquently put

[mono]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/math/f/c/4/fc4cb7a98ec5608bcdfacc0c309e3a6b.png

[Medicalelf]

Catholics needs to be circumsized that's why I've never seen a real one ahahahah

[Medicalelf]

Medi something I think youve not thought of is that still having your foreskin left is the way nature intended it. Getting circumcised is the "unnatural" way. I suggest you read up on it on Wikipedia for example.

Americans try to come up with silly ideas why it shouldnt be there, but there is no medical reason why anyone should get circumcised.

Smegma (penis cheese)? Ive never had it, because its just a proof that you are a disgusting asshole who doesnt know how to clean yourself.

When my dick is limp the foreskin covers the tip of my penis, and when Im errect it has withdrawn completely from it.

During sex it makes it feel better because it adds extra friction both for me and for the girl Im with.

I wouldnt want to live without it.


Oh one more thing, are they easy to clean? They said some white things get stucked inside the foreskin and they said that it stinks :(

[WiGgLr]

Catholics needs to be circumsized that's why I've never seen a real one ahahahah

If that is true, then it is only true in the US. Elsewhere it is Jewish that get circumcised

[Medicalelf]

Philippines :P

[WiGgLr]

If part of being Catholic meant you had to get circumcised, most of France, Italy, Spain, Portugal, a good proportion of the UK and a lot of other European countries would be mostly circumcised.

The fact that we're not proves that it is not a requirement of being Catholic to suffer body mutilation

[Medicalelf]

If part of being Catholic meant you had to get circumcised, most of France, Italy, Spain, Portugal, a good proportion of the UK and a lot of other European countries would be mostly circumcised.

The fact that we're not proves that it is not a requirement of being Catholic to suffer body mutilation

ok boss now show me yours lol :P

[Talorth]

Medi something I think youve not thought of is that still having your foreskin left is the way nature intended it. Getting circumcised is the "unnatural" way. I suggest you read up on it on Wikipedia for example.

Americans try to come up with silly ideas why it shouldnt be there, but there is no medical reason why anyone should get circumcised.

Smegma (penis cheese)? Ive never had it, because its just a proof that you are a disgusting asshole who doesnt know how to clean yourself.

When my dick is limp the foreskin covers the tip of my penis, and when Im errect it has withdrawn completely from it.

During sex it makes it feel better because it adds extra friction both for me and for the girl Im with.

I wouldnt want to live without it.
BUT NORTH AMERICA IS LIKE THE WHOLE WORLD MENG.

ps, lol and eww @ smegma

[mono]

If that is true, then it is only true in the US. Elsewhere it is Jewish that get circumcised
Muslims also gets circumcised...

[Digita1]

I got mine done when I was a child, but it's not quite right... It's not fully done, I suppose? It's kind of odd, I still have extra foreskin that other circumsized people do not. I guess I've got a weird dick. :/

[ACB]

tmi T_________T

[Talorth]

I got mine done when I was a child, but it's not quite right... It's not fully done, I suppose? It's kind of odd, I still have extra foreskin that other circumsized people do not. I guess I've got a weird dick. :/

Well some circumcision procedures are done differently than others... the amount circumcised can differ....

There is also the possibility of it actually being stretched back out (Alot of circumcised men have stretched out their remnants of foreskin to make it uncircimcised again, why'd you go to that effort I have no idea.)

Lol @ weird PENIS

at least its not






TEEEEEEEEEENY WEEEEEEEEEEENY.

[Craysh]

You mean people are circumcizing for other reasons than religion? I had no idea =/

It looks better. Getting an erection when uncircumcised looks like that one part of alien when the head pops out of the guys chest.

[WiGgLr]

it feels better being uncircumcised.

Not having a foreskin, you miss out on having it being played with by your partner. Not only that, but your bellend becomes desensitised as it's never hidden away in it's home.

[damme]

Oh one more thing, are they easy to clean? They said some white things get stucked inside the foreskin and they said that it stinks :(

Very easy to clean, just pull back and flush water is enough. An uncirc.. however it's spelled... penis is more sensitive because it's protected when not in use and the foreskin itself has alot of those sensor thingies too whatever they are called.

A mutilated penis looking better than an unmutilated one?

[CharlieM]

What the fuck over.
A circumsized dick and an au` naturale dick look exactly the fucking same when erect.

Dick cheese is a function of wanking / sex several times during a week and not having a shower.

Its not a dick only thing either, burgers smell like fish after a week without a wash, jeezus christ.

I still got my jacket btw >.>

[Medicalelf]

:O so many of you but never seen one irl, tsk, tsk. tsk this can't be right :(

[LinnEva]

:O so many of you but never seen one irl, tsk, tsk. tsk this can't be right :(
contact me at henning_mayhem@hotmail.com for some hot action! steaming!

[Medicalelf]

contact me at henning_mayhem@hotmail.com for some hot action! steaming!

done

[mono]

:P

[LinnEva]

dont get jealous mono, i got some for you too

[Tengil]

Mememe show me!

And like other said, its just people who dun clean themselves who get cheese.

When I wash my penis I pull back my foreskin and rince (sometimes I use a very mild soap too cuz just washing all the time isnt clean enough IMO).

Though after soaping it goes a bit dry, but that just lasts an hour or so.

[LinnEva]

i rub and rub.....and rub some more



dr greves intim såpe

[Bonk]

lol @ the advert "got herpes?" Date others with herpes. www.h-date.com (http://www.h-date.com)

wtf is with these google ads?

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[1095]

scary

[BLACK]

LOL

[Jadein]

Medi ... if Catholics in Phillipines have to be circumsized it is purely a cultural thing ... because in general Catholics have no reason to be circumsized. In biblical terms circumsision came about as a Covenant sign between God and Abraham and for the rest of the old testament that is how the Jewish people showed thier Covenant with God. When Jesus came and died and rose again that nullified the The Law ... (Why the curtain was tore down the center in the temple)... so we now live under a New Covenant meaning we don't need to make the sacrafices we used to ... it's why we don't have to eat kosher like Jews do and ect. It was all about the Covenant with God and being clean and unclean.... In biblical terms anyways. Here's more about it if you are really really interested.

Circumcision



The Hebrew (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/07176a.htm), like the Greek (peritome), and the Latin (circumcisio), signifies a cutting and, specifically, the removal of the prepuce, or foreskin, from the penis. The number and variety of tribes and nations who practised it are surprising; a conservative estimate places the number that practise it in our day at two hundred millions. Herodotus says that the Egyptians (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/05329b.htm), Colchians, and Ethiopians (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/05566a.htm), from very early times, were circumcised; and he mentions other races, the Phoenicians (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/12041a.htm) and Syrians (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/14399a.htm) of Palestine (the Jews (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/08399a.htm), as Josephus (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/08522a.htm) maintains), who say that they learned the use of circumcision from the Egyptians (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/05329b.htm) (Herod., II, 104; Jos., C. Ap., I, 22). Even some Christians (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/03712a.htm) circumcise their children, the Copts (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/01300b.htm), for instance, and the Abyssinians (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/01075e.htm), in Africa (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/01181a.htm); and among the Filipinos, the same may be said of most of the Tagalos, who are Catholics (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/03449a.htm). To these last, however, it is a mere ceremony (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/03538b.htm) without religious import. The Mohammedan (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/10424a.htm) Moros may have introduced it into the islands, where it remains, notwithstanding centuries of Christian (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/03712a.htm) influence against it (C. N. Barney, see bibliography). The Abyssinians (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/01075e.htm) are entirely under Jewish (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/08399a.htm) influence, though they profess Christianity (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/03712a.htm): they observe the Jewish (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/08399a.htm) Sabbath (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/13287b.htm), circumcise on the eighth day, and observe many other usages. (See Andree, cited below, p. 189.) Andree states also that the custom (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/04576a.htm) of circumcising is found in Sumatra (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/14333b.htm) (pp. 191, 192), the east coast of New Guinea (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/10783a.htm) (p. 197), and among the Samoans (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/13421a.htm), who call Europeans (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/05607b.htm) "the uncircumcised". Even in America, circumcision was in use among the Aztec (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/02169b.htm) and Maya (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/10082b.htm) races (op. cit. 201, 202). The fact of its existence (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/05543b.htm) in Australia (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/02113b.htm) (Spencer and Gillen, Tribes of Central Australia (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/02113b.htm), p. 218 sq.), and in a great part of the islands of Oceanica, not to speak of America, would seem to throw some doubt (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/05141a.htm) on the assertion of Herodotus that it had its origin in Egypt (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/05329b.htm).
It is not easy to assign satisfactory reasons for a usage so general. Those who think it was a tribal mark, like tattooing, or the knocking out of the front teeth, should consider that such marks are usually conspicuous. Was it connected with phallic worship, and thus regarded as an offering (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/11215d.htm) to the deity (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/04683a.htm) of fertility? or was it, as some think, a substitute for human sacrifice? From the fact that the priests (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/12406a.htm) in Egypt (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/05329b.htm) were, beyond question, circumcised (G. Rawlinson -- Ancient Egypt (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/05329b.htm), vol. I, p. 452), as also from the fact that the upper classes among the Aztec (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/02169b.htm) and Celebes tribes made use of it, we may conclude that circumcision was not looked upon as a mark of slavery (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/14036a.htm) or subjection, but rather of nobility and superiority. Father Lagrange holds that it had a religious significance, and that, as it is not referred to in Chaldean monuments, it was not a protosemitic practice, but may have had its origin in Arabia (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/01674a.htm) (Etudes sur les religions (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/12738a.htm) sémitiques, 1903, pp. 239-243).
Merely utilitarian (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/15241c.htm) motives have been assigned by many: even Philo (De Circumcisione, II, 211, ed. Mangey) gives cleanliness, freedom from disease, offspring, and purity of heart, this last the only mystical (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/10663b.htm) or sacramental (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/13295a.htm) one among the four, which Herodotus also mentions as the motive of the Egyptians (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/05329b.htm), kathariotetos eineka (II, 37). Physicians prescribe circumcision in certain cases, for instance, to guard against phimosis, balanitis, and other such evils (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/05649a.htm); further, Rosenzweig recommended its general adoption in the Prussian (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/12519c.htm) army (Zur Beschneidungsfrage, 1878). That the ceremony (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/03538b.htm) had some relation to initiation into manhood, at the marriageable age, seems to receive support from the custom (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/04576a.htm) of certain tribes of being circumcised at the age of puberty; and also from the fact that the Arabic word khatan signifies to circumcise and to be allied by marriage.
It is strange that the universal practice of circumcision among those who profess Mohammedanism (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/10424a.htm) is neither based upon, nor sanctioned (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/13428a.htm) by, the Koran (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/08692a.htm). Was this silence (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/13790a.htm) observed by the Prophet of Islam (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/10424a.htm) because there was no need of prescribing what already had the force of law (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/09053a.htm) or, perhaps, because it did not seem to him to have any religious significance? However we explain his silence (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/13790a.htm), tradition, by appealing to his authority, soon gave to the practice all the weight of his sanction (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/13428a.htm). The age at which the Arabs (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/01663a.htm) were circumcised was, according to Josephus (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/08522a.htm) (Ant., I, xii, 2), thirteen years, in imitation of Ismael (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/08192a.htm) (Gen. xvii, 25). At present the regular time (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/14726a.htm) for circumcising Mohammedan (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/10424a.htm) children is between the ages of seven and twelve years. The Bedouin tribes too, though not scrupulous (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/13640a.htm) Islamites (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/10424a.htm), have adhered faithfully to this usage of their forefathers. A short description of the ceremony (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/03538b.htm) of circumcision among the nomads of the Sinaitic peninsula may be read in the "Palestine Exploration Fund, Quarterly Statement" (Jan., 1906, p. 28). The writer says that the ceremony (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/03538b.htm) has "nothing religious" about it: yet, as he states, the beginning of the Koran (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/08692a.htm) is recited on the occasion.
The relation, if there be any, between Gentile (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/06422a.htm) and Jewish (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/08399a.htm) circumcision is an interesting subject. The clear statement of the Bible (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/bible) that circumcision was given to Abraham (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/01051a.htm), as "a sign of the covenant" (Gen. xvii, 11), need not compel us to believe (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/02408b.htm) that hitherto it was unknown in the world. Like the law (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/09053a.htm) of clean and unclean (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/04010c.htm), in food and daily life, it may be regarded as a practice of venerable antiquity that was adopted and adapted to express what it had not expressed before. The rainbow existed from the first days of rain and sunshine, for it is the result of both, but the Lord gave its future significance to Noah (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/11088a.htm). The same is true (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/15073a.htm) of incense (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/07716a.htm), sacrifice, and lustral water, which, though found very early among nations not in touch with revelation (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/13001a.htm), are yet prescribed by Divine ordinance and used in Divine worship. If, therefore, we question the assertion of Herodotus, that circumcision was of Egyptian (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/05329b.htm) origin, and was adopted from the Egyptians (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/05329b.htm) by surrounding nations, and, among these, by the Syrians (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/14399a.htm). (Jews (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/08399a.htm)) of Palestine, it is not because of theological (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/14580x.htm) scruples (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/13640a.htm), but rather because of lack of argument. Whatever may be said about Herodotus as a witness (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/15677a.htm) in matters that fell under his personal observation, when he argues, his authority is only in proportion to the weight of his arguments, and these are, in many instances, mere conjectures. Artapanus, quoted by Eusebius (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/05617b.htm) (Præpar. Evan., IX, xxviii), goes so far as to say that the Egyptians (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/05329b.htm) adopted the practice of circumcision from Moses (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/10596a.htm).
The illustration of the ceremony (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/03538b.htm) of circumcision pictured on the ruins of Karnak, is probably later than the going down of Israel (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/08193a.htm) into Egypt (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/05329b.htm). It is given in Andree's work, pp. 187, 188 (see below); and also in Ebers, "Aegypten etc.", pp. 278-284 (see below), who, moreover, discusses the inferences to be drawn from the finding of a circumcised mummy. We may safely say, however, that up to our time (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/14726a.htm) the monuments of antiquity furnish no conclusive proof (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/12454c.htm) that circumcision was practised anywhere prior to the Biblical date (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/04636c.htm), at which God (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/06608a.htm) made it "a sign of the covenant" between Himself and Abraham (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/01051a.htm) (Genesis 17:11 (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/bible/gen017.htm#11)). To the Jews (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/08399a.htm) it had a sacramental (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/13295a.htm) meaning, derived from its Divine institution and sanction (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/13428a.htm). As Isaac (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/08175a.htm), so their children were circumcised on the eighth day, according to the law (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/09053a.htm): "An infant of eight days old shall be circumcised among you, every man (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/09580c.htm) child in your generations: he that is born in the house, as well as the bought servant shall be circumcised, and whosoever is not of your stock: And my covenant shall be in your flesh for a perpetual covenant. The male, whose flesh of his foreskin shall not be circumcised, that soul (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/14153a.htm) shall be destroyed out of his people: because he hath broken my covenant" (Genesis 17:12-14 (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/bible/gen017.htm#12); 21:4 (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/bible/gen021.htm#4)). For some reason, not given in the text, Moses (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/10596a.htm) while in Madian (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/09513b.htm) neglected to circumcise his son, Eliezer, on which account God (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/06608a.htm) "would have killed him", i.e. not Eliezer, as some think, but Moses (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/10596a.htm), as the passage indicates. Sephora, having taken a sharp stone, circumcised her son with it, and said, "a bloody spouse art thou to me"; whereupon the Lord "let him go" (Exodus 4:24-26 (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/bible/exo004.htm#24)). The Greek reading, "the blood of my son's circumcision has ceased to flow", is obscure. Sephora very probably meant that by what she had done she had saved the life of her husband and confirmed their marriage by the shedding of blood.
During the sojourn of forty years in the desert (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/04749a.htm) the law (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/09053a.htm) of circumcision was not observed, as the changes incident to nomadic life, in so large a community, made its observance almost impossible. When, however, the people came into the Land of Promise, the Lord said to Josue (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/08524a.htm): "Make thee knives of stone, and circumcise the second time the children of Israel (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/08193a.htm)" (Joshua 5:2 (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/bible/jos005.htm#2)). The second time, i.e. renew the practice which had been omitted during the nomadic period. As Sephora used a stone knife, so on this occasion stone knives were used, which is a proof (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/12454c.htm) that the events narrated are of great antiquity. The words of the Lord to Josue (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/08524a.htm), "This day have I taken away from you the reproach of Egypt (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/05329b.htm)", seem to refer not to circumcision, as some think, but to the disgrace of being slaves (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/14036a.htm) to the Egyptians (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/05329b.htm), contrasted with the honour (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/07462a.htm) of entering into the true (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/15073a.htm) liberty of the children of God (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/06608a.htm). Josephus (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/08522a.htm) interprets them in this sense: "Now the place where Joshua pitched his camp was called 'Gilgal', which denotes 'liberty', for since now they had passed over Jordan, they looked upon themselves as freed from the miseries which they had undergone from the Egyptians (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/05329b.htm), and in the wilderness" (Ant., V, i, 11). Many modern scholars, however, translate Gilgal, "a rolling away", "circle" (Gesenius, s. v.), and think that the Heb. text of Josue (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/08524a.htm) (v, 9), "I have rolled away from you the reproach of Egypt (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/05329b.htm)", refers to the removal of the disgrace of uncircumcision; for at that time (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/14726a.htm), they suppose, most of the Egyptians (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/05329b.htm), and not a few Jews (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/08399a.htm) while in Egypt (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/05329b.htm), were uncircumcised. The law (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/09053a.htm) was clear and peremptory: "The uncircumcised shall be destroyed out of his people" (Genesis 17:14 (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/bible/gen017.htm#14)); and for both Jews (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/08399a.htm) and strangers circumcision was a necessary (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/10733a.htm) preparation for eating the paschal lamb (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/08755a.htm) (Exodus 12:48 (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/bible/exo012.htm#48)). "i>Arel</I>, "uncircumcised", is frequently used as a term of reproach, i.e. profane, unclean (Judges 15:18 (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/bible/jdg015.htm#18); 1 Kings 14:6 (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/bible/1ki014.htm#6), 17:36 (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/bible/1ki017.htm#36), 31:4 (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/bible/1ki031.htm#4); Isaiah 52:1 (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/bible/isa052.htm#1); Ezekiel 28:10 (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/bible/eze028.htm#10), 32:25, 26 (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/bible/eze032.htm#25), etc.). The school (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/13554b.htm) of Shammai (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/13751a.htm), therefore, was conservative, insisting on the rigorous observance of the law (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/09053a.htm), while that of Hillel (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/07354c.htm), was more inclined to leniency, in dealing with proselytes (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/12481c.htm) and strangers. Josephus (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/08522a.htm), in the advice of Eleazer and Ananias to Izates, King of Adiabene, gives the views of the rigorists and the laxists in reference to the necessity (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/10733a.htm) of circumcision (Ant., XX, ii, 4; cf. Graetz, Geschichte d. Juden, III, pp. 172 sqq.). The rigorous doctrine (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/05075b.htm) was adopted by John Hyrcanus, who compelled the Idumeans (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/07638a.htm) to be circumcised. They received, moreover, the entire Jewish Law (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/10582c.htm); so that Josephus (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/08522a.htm) says "they were hereafter no other than Jews (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/08399a.htm)" (Ant., XIII, ix, 1). Therefore, the fact that Herod (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/07289c.htm) was an Idumean (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/07638a.htm) helped him to the throne. The Itureans also were forced "to live according to the Jewish (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/08399a.htm) laws (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/09053a.htm)" (Jos., Ant., XIII, xi, 3).
Long before this, many of the Persians (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/11712a.htm) were circumcised and "became Jews (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/08399a.htm), for the fear (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/06021a.htm) of the Jews (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/08399a.htm) had fallen upon them" (Esther 8:17 (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/bible/est008.htm#17), Heb. text; Josephus (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/08522a.htm), Ant., XI, 6:13). The Book of Jubilees (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/08535a.htm) insists upon he strict observance of the law (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/09053a.htm), and protests against those that "make the members of their body appear like those of the gentiles (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/06422a.htm)" (xv, 26, 27). During the period of Greek rule in Palestine, when those that kept the laws (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/09053a.htm) of Moses (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/10596a.htm) were put to death (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/12565a.htm) by the gentile (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/06422a.htm) tyrants (1 Maccabees 1:63 (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/bible/1ma001.htm#63); 2 Maccabees 6:10 (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/bible/2ma006.htm#10)), some Jews (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/08399a.htm), under Greek influence, "made themselves prepuces" and turned away from the ways and traditions of their fathers (1 Maccabees 1:15, 16 (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/bible/1ma001.htm#15); Joshua Ant., XII, 5:1). To this epispastic operation performed on the athletes to conceal the marks of circumcision St. Paul (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/11567b.htm) alludes, me epispastho (1 Corinthians 7:18 (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/bible/1co007.htm#18)). Therefore Jewish (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/08399a.htm) circumcision, in later times, tears the membrane that remains after circumcision given in the ordinary way, among the Arabs (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/01663a.htm) for instance, and thus defeats even the surgeon's skill.
In our day many Jews (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/08399a.htm) are not so zealous (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/15753a.htm) in keeping the law (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/09053a.htm) as their fathers were; nor do they think it necessary (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/10733a.htm) to have the "sign of the covenant" in their flesh. The ceremony (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/03538b.htm) is considered cruel, nor has it any sacramental (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/13295a.htm) import in Jewish (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/08399a.htm) national life. The Reform movement at Frankfort-on-the-Main (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/06237a.htm), 1843, considered it an unnecessary element of Judaism (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/08537a.htm). This lax doctrine (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/05075b.htm) could find no stronger expression than in the case of Chief Rabbi (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/12617b.htm) Einhorn of Mecklenburg (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/10107a.htm), who in 1847 defended his having named and consecrated (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/04276a.htm) an uncircumcised child in the synagogue (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/14379b.htm), as a child, even though uncircumcised, born of Jewish (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/08399a.htm) parents (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/11478c.htm), enjoys all the privileges (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/12436b.htm) and assumes all the obligations (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/11189a.htm) of a Jew (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/08399a.htm). (See Jewish (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/08399a.htm) Encyl., s. vv. Circumcision, Einhorn.)
Neither place nor minister (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/10326a.htm) is designated in the law (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/09053a.htm) of circumcision. The mother sometimes, oftener the father, circumcised the child. Later, one skilled in the operation, called a Mohel, usually a surgeon, performed it. In Josephus (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/08522a.htm), Ant., XX, ii, 4, we read that Izates, the King of Adiabene, wishing to live as a Jew (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/08399a.htm), "sent for a surgeon" and was circumcised, evidently at home, as in modern times also the ceremony (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/03538b.htm) may take place either at home or usually in the synagogue (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/14379b.htm). The eighth day was prescribed, even should it be the Sabbath (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/13287b.htm) (see John 7:22-23 (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/bible/joh007.htm#22)). A name was given, as in Luke, i, 59, ii, 21, to commemorate the change of the patriarch's name from Abram to Abraham (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/01051a.htm), when God (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/06608a.htm) made the covenant with him and made circumcision the sign of it (Genesis 17:5 (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/bible/gen017.htm#5)). In the ceremony (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/03538b.htm), the one that holds the child is called Sandek, from the Greek synteknos, equivalent to our godfather in baptism (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/02258b.htm); and as Elias (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/05381b.htm) was a zealous (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/15753a.htm) champion of the law (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/09053a.htm), for which he suffered much, there is a vacant (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/15248b.htm) chair for him at every circumcision.
The Jews (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/08399a.htm) were proud (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/12405a.htm) of their descent from Abraham (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/01051a.htm), but did not always "do the works of Abraham (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/01051a.htm)" (John 8:39 (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/bible/joh008.htm#39)). They attached so much importance to the external act, that while attending to the letter they neglected the spirit of the law (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/09053a.htm). Jeremias (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/08333c.htm) (iv, 4; ix, 25, 26) calls their attention to the necessity (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/10733a.htm) of circumcision of the heart, as all important. Even in Deut., x, 16, xxx, 6, this spiritual circumcision is set forth in no uncertain language. As uncircumcision means profane, unclean, imperfect, "I am of uncircumcised lips" (Exodus 6:12 (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/bible/exo006.htm#12)), "their ears are uncircumcised" (Jeremiah 6:10 (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/bible/jer006.htm#10)), and was applied to inanimate things also, as in Lev., xix, 23, "the fruit that cometh forth shall be unclean [Hebrew (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/07176a.htm) uncircumcised] to you", so to circumcise the heart (Romans 2:29 (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/bible/rom002.htm#29)) means to reform the inner man (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/09580c.htm), by cutting off the vices and correcting the disorders that make him displeasing in the sight of God (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/06608a.htm). To leave the synagogue (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/14379b.htm) was to give up that which more than anything else characterized it (see Galatians 2:7-8 (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/bible/gal002.htm#7)). Yet St. Paul (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/11567b.htm), while showing his freedom from the legalities of the Old Dispensation (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/14526a.htm) by not circumcising Titus (Galatians 2:3 (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/bible/gal002.htm#3)), wished to bury the synagogue (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/14379b.htm) with honour (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/07462a.htm) by subjecting Timothy to the law (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/09053a.htm) of circumcision (Acts 16:3 (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/bible/act016.htm#3)). Even though Christ (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/08374c.htm) Himself, as a true (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/15073a.htm) son of Abraham (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/01051a.htm), submitted to the law (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/09053a.htm), His followers were to be children of Abraham (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/01051a.htm) by faith (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/05752c.htm), and were to "adore the Father in spirit and in truth (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/15073a.htm)" (John 4:23 (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/bible/joh004.htm#23)). The Council of Jerusalem (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/08344x.htm) decided against the necessity (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/10733a.htm) of the rite (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/13064b.htm), and St. Paul (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/11567b.htm), in his Epistle to the Galatians (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/06336a.htm), condemns the teachers that wished to make the Church (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/03744a.htm) of Christ only a continuation of the synagogue (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/14379b.htm): "Behold, I Paul tell you, that if you be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing" (v, 2). Here he refers to the supposed efficacy and necessity (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/10733a.htm) of circumcision, rather than to the mere ceremony (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/03538b.htm); for he did not consider it wrong to circumcise Timothy. It was wrong, however, for the Galatians, having been baptized (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/02258b.htm), and having taken upon themselves the obligations (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/11189a.htm) of the law (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/09053a.htm) of Christ with all its privileges (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/12436b.htm), to be circumcised as a necessary (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/10733a.htm) means of salvation (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/13407a.htm), since, by going for salvation (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/13407a.htm) from the Church (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/03744a.htm) to the Synagogue (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/14379b.htm), they virtually denied the sufficiency of the merits (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/10202b.htm) of Christ (cf. Piconio (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/12075c.htm), "Trip. Exp. in Gal.," v, 2). The Apostle (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/01626c.htm) gives the essence (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/05543b.htm) of Christianity (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/03712a.htm) when he says: "In Christ Jesus (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/08374c.htm) neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision: but faith (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/05752c.htm) that worketh by charity" (Galatians 5:6 (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/bible/gal005.htm#6)). In his Epistle to the Romans (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/13156a.htm), iv, he shows that Abraham (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/01051a.htm) was justified by faith (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/05752c.htm), before circumcision was given as a sign of the covenant; so that the uncircumcision of the New Law is the continuation of the first ages of faith (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/05752c.htm) upon the earth. The gentile (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/06422a.htm) church of uncircumcision, according to St. Gregory the Great (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/06780a.htm), is composed of men from the time (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/14726a.htm) of Abel the Just (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/08571c.htm) to the end of ages (Hom. xix in Evan.). St. Justin (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/08580c.htm) also says that as Henoch (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/07218a.htm) and the just of old received the spiritual circumcision, so do we receive it in the Sacrament of Baptism (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/02258b.htm) (Dial. cum Tryph., n. xliii).
St. Thomas holds that circumcision was a figure of baptism (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/02258b.htm): this retrenches and restrains the animal man (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/09580c.htm) as that removed a part of his body -- which physical act indicated the spiritual effect of the sacrament (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/13295a.htm) (De Sac., Summa, III, Q. lxx, a. 1). He gives three reasons why the organ of generation rather than any other was to be circumcised:
Abraham was to be blessed (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/02599b.htm) in his seed;
The rite (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/13064b.htm) was to take away original sin (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/11312a.htm), which comes by generation;
It was to restrain concupiscence (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/04208a.htm), which is found especially in the generative organs (III, Q. lxx, a. 3).According to his teaching, as baptism (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/02258b.htm) remits original sin (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/11312a.htm) and actual sins (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/14004b.htm) committed before its reception, so circumcision remitted both, but ex opere operantis, i.e. by the faith (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/05752c.htm) of the recipient, or, in the case of infants, by the faith (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/05752c.htm) of the parents (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/11478c.htm). Infants that died before being circumcised could be saved, as were those who lived prior to the institution of circumcision, and as females (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/15687b.htm) were even after its institution, by some sign -- the parents' (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/11478c.htm) prayer (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/12345b.htm), for instance -- expressive of faith (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/05752c.htm). Adults did not receive the remission of all the temporal punishment due to sin (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/14004b.htm) as in baptism (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/02258b.htm): -- "Adulti, quando circumcidebantur, consequebantur remissionem, non solum originalis peccati, sed etiam actualium peccatorum; non tamen ita quod liberarentur ab omni reatu p næ, Sicut in baptismo, in quo confertur copiosior gratia" (III, Q. lxx, a. 4). The main points of the teaching of the Angelic Doctor (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/14663b.htm) were commonly held in the Church (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/03744a.htm), even before the days of St. Augustine, who with other Fathers maintained that circumcision was not a mere ceremony (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/03538b.htm), but a sacramental (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/13295a.htm) rite (http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/cathen/13064b.htm). (Cf. De Civ. Dei, xvi, 27.)

[LinnEva]

too many words for my little head.
cant we just cyber?

[Jadein]

Nahhh i only cyber with Leaf and Ist.

[BLACK]

LOL @ all the religon that has been made up as they went along. You actually think that shit really happened?

Circumcision for Christians started with the Puritans coming over to America. They didn't want anyone having to touch their genitals for fear of masturbation. Viola, circumcised Christians in the US.

[Talorth]

rofl my current avatar is about how i got a tummy ache off of quaker cereal, but it has a big alternative accidental meaning in this thread.

[Digita1]

You Quaker hater!

[YuriSakazaki]

I wish I still had my foreskin :(

[Damarus]

CBF reading this thread, but if anyone ever tries to touch my penis without intentions of sucking or otherwise using it in a sexual manner (and nothing else), they will recieve a large stab wound in the side of their neck and if they are lucky, it will be continued all the way around until their head falls off.

My foreskin will die with me :)

[Tengil]

Have Linneva showed you his penis yet Medi?

[LinnEva]

not yet, we got a date on thursday!

[Victis]

Mine is gone, I don't miss it. Sex is great.. head is great.. doesn't look like an ant eater when its flacid.. got the german helmet thang goin on when its excited.. the wifey loves it so :/

tbh.. there is no real difference when either are erect.. Ive heard uncut dudes are more sensitive... things are sensitive enough down there without me putting holes through walls to contain my zerglings.

[Medicalelf]

not yet, we got a date on thursday!

I see the foreskin :O lol bleeeeh

[Leafluna]

Nahhh i only cyber with Leaf and Ist.

O.o oh, don't I feel special , lol <3


This was a very touchy subject in my household when my son was born.
I was completely against circumcision. There just is no reason for it in my opinion.
My husband is circumcised and felt strongly that his son should be also.
We fought about it almost from the time we found out we were having a boy.
Ultimately this was a battle that I ended up losing (he ended up getting more family on his side)
I still regret that I gave in, but my son is healthy, and happy, guess that is all that matters.

[Talorth]

Well leaf, it isn't a big deal really... Although it's nice to see someone mention that it IS infact unncessary. After all, there is an overemphasis on silly things in general with sexuality and sex, (I mean Less chance of HIV without foreskin? Oh so we should all get circumcised and have unprotected sex with HIV positives!)

My opinion on the subject is; if I had a kid, it's up for him to decide in his life later if he wants to get circumcised. What's there is there.

However, just because you gave in doesn't mean you should regret anything. Like I said before, overmphasis on something that doesn't really matter.

Supposedly women that have tried both uncircumcised and circumcised say uncircumcised is way better, from what i've gathered.

[Bonk]

lmfao anteater

[CharlieM]

lmfao anteater
The affectionate term endeared to the fully functioning and original penis given by those with only half a dick.

Cant cope with the fact you guys have a half-cock, so you gotta let your agression out some way, I guess whatever helps you sleep at night.

[Digita1]

The affectionate term endeared to the fully functioning and original penis given by those with only half a dick.

Cant cope with the fact you guys have a half-cock, so you gotta let your agression out some way, I guess whatever helps you sleep at night.

How do you gather he wasn't "coping" with that "fact"? To me, he's simply just laughing at the term "anteater" because it's funny and something he's never heard before most likely.

I laughed at it.

[LinnEva]

dont bring all the teenage angst in here!

[Damarus]

People without foreskins are gay.

[Grog]

people without your mum are gay

[Pseudonymous]

foreskin ftw

[Victis]

The affectionate term endeared to the fully functioning and original penis given by those with only half a dick.

Cant cope with the fact you guys have a half-cock, so you gotta let your agression out some way, I guess whatever helps you sleep at night.

My half dick is twice the size of your full sized dick.

But then again you have to actually have sex to really be talking about dicks, you god damn faggot.

[Archaos]

lol.

+1 Victis.

[LinnEva]

ugh people ruining this great thread with their angst.

[Medicalelf]

I have never tried and uncut guy. But one time I got an offer from a very good looking guy but I turned him down because he is uncut :(. I don't know, I think I got scared of the horrible story(smegma) about it :(.

[LinnEva]

its an urban legend!

[Medicalelf]

its an urban legend!


convince me :P

[LinnEva]

pay my plane ticket and i will!

[Medicalelf]

pay my plane ticket and i will!

Can I see a sample in pics or webcam first? ahahah

[Archaos]

fear the ant eater.

[Will]

This thread makes me ache in private places :p

[HooB]

This thread makes me ache in private places :p

Just rub it alittle and it will all be better soon ;-)

[Medicalelf]

I'm eating Ulti meat with cheese eeekkk :(

[HooB]

I'm eating Ulti meat with cheese eeekkk :(
Dont blame us for putting those images into your head

[CharlieM]

My half dick is twice the size of your full sized dick.

But then again you have to actually have sex to really be talking about dicks, you god damn faggot.

Must of hit a nerve.
































...and you also have red hair.

[Archaos]

...and you also have red hair.

Jealous of it aren't we.

[Talorth]

red heads can be quite awesome tbh...


and the term anteater IS funny, fer crying out loud... its like saying that a penis head looks like a german helmet

LOL it does!

[Victis]

Must of hit a nerve.
































...and you also have red hair.

The red hair actually makes it look even smaller.

:(

[Talorth]

just because its small doesnt mean you should invent stuff up.

[Damascus]

I have never tried and uncut guy. But one time I got an offer from a very good looking guy but I turned him down because he is uncut :(. I don't know, I think I got scared of the horrible story(smegma) about it :(.

I know quite a few girls that enjoy foreskins and have been pleased to find I still have mine. I think for alot of people there is almost the same kind of joy in peeling a foreskin back as there is in removing layers of clothing.

It's not that hard to just pull it back and wash the goddam thing every day.

And I just read the rest of the thread and found, yeah, what I said has been said already. Ah well, putting my vote in for a natural wrinkly little bugger.

[Damarus]

The red hair actually makes it look even smaller.

:(
To quote the great ChaosVibe "Muther fukin beacon head in the ass"

[Damascus]

lol

[damme]

I have never tried and uncut guy. But one time I got an offer from a very good looking guy but I turned him down because he is uncut :(. I don't know, I think I got scared of the horrible story(smegma) about it :(.

Where do these smegma stories come from? Someone who doesn't clean his dick for over a month? That guy must have more serious problems and be quite repulsive.

[Damascus]

Fucking eczma breakthrough ad on this page. Fucking fuck.

[Tengil]

I feel sorry for Medi. She got all this prejudice because of a gross image she saw on the web.

Its like saying: Im afraid of dating an asian girl cuz she'll just poo all over her own face in a bathtub.
Or: Im afraid of old men cuz all they do is have gay 3-somes.

[Damascus]

lol lemonparty.

[1095]

Or: Im afraid of old men cuz all they do is have gay 3-somes.

Or perform anal stretches


lol goatse.

[Medicalelf]

Is ti Bleu cheese or mozarella?

good news is I eat both of them but still, I don't know depends if Linneva will show it to me :D. Is Zebedee uncut too?

[LinnEva]

i already showed you last night!

[Medicalelf]

no! you didn't let the turtle come out ahahahahha

[LinnEva]

the turtle might be slow to come out, but the head popped out pretty fast!

[Medicalelf]

ahahahah what do I need to do to lure that out, so I can trap the daym turtle haahahahahah

[LinnEva]

he just wants to roam free and explore the mountains and the deep caves.

[Medicalelf]

:O Linn you are soooo cute *rawr* bite the turtles head....hmmm ok checking my mail hahahahah :P

[Grog]

...that didn't need to be public..

[Medicalelf]

which one the biting of a turtles head hmmm yah too gross hah and barbaric hahahahaah

[Archaos]

any...

[LinnEva]

cyber orgy!

[Medicalelf]

no! I just want you :D...back to email turtle :P

[Archaos]

keep it PG.

sickos.

[Talorth]

....

[LinnEva]

when did everyone become so holy here!

[Medicalelf]

when did everyone become so holy here!

everytime I come in the forum it becomes rated pG hahhaha but other than that like goatse and tubgirl it's ok and ohhh not so safe for work pics are ok :D. The little boy wants to tame the beast.... whoah!!

[Tengil]

So linny really showed his dick to Medi?

Nasty.

[Grog]

i think what's nastier is that it looked like a turtle

[LinnEva]

i show everything for 5 dollars

[Medicalelf]

i show everything for 5 dollars

hahahah I la you Lin :D.... go, go, go watch that link I posted in NSFW

[Damascus]

i think what's nastier is that it looked like a turtle

Meh, I put a bandanna on my turtle and let it fight crime while I sleep.

[Craysh]

fear the ant eater.
Oh my god... that's the nickname of my best friend LMAO
We call him the Aardvark because we're fairly sure he could pick up ants with his :O

[Archaos]

awkward.

[Talorth]

So linny really showed his dick to Medi?

Nasty.


Linny showed his inny.

[Damascus]

Clever Tal. :p

Personally, I like the reaction a glimpse of my 'inny' elicits from female viewers. Ego boosts are great!

[Grog]

"you told me that was his arm..."
"hahaha high five caboose!"
"i don't like this game anymore..."

[johkai]

i wanna cut off my foreskin because foreskin looks ugly.

[mono]

i wanna cut off my foreskin because foreskin looks ugly.
To the Guillotine you go then... :twisted:

[Talorth]

i wanna cut off my foreskin because foreskin looks ugly.

Someone has a penis inferiority complex ^.^

[johkai]

why do i have a complex? : o

[Talorth]

Lol epic thread bump.

[damme]

Lawl

[Infamous]

I was circumsized. but im sure theres like atleast 10 of you here who know that lool.

[Talorth]

LMAO Frank, even I know that. With my amazing internet skills at finding penis.

[BLACK]

My favorite penis?

[Xelli]

I like a natural maaannnnnnnnn! But either is fine tbh. Linn show me yours too, kthxbai.

~Xel

[Talorth]

rofl

[BLACK]

Xelli, show me yours.

[Infamous]

LMAO Frank, even I know that. With my amazing internet skills at finding penis.
I was refering to the fact that I have shown mine to a number of ladies, and atleast a few of said females slide through here from time to time.

[Talorth]

yes. and i have aquired the pictures.

[Demon]

I dont think most of us had a choice in the matter either way, mines was gone before i knew what it was. i told tengil to be gentle but hell thats what he wanted.

[BLACK]

Took it off with the teeth?

[Talorth]

eww god, thatd be horrible. @UU$IOr32jtp'

[Infamous]

yes. and i have aquired the pictures.
I doubt it ;o