Sony: Wii an Impulse Buy

[Perant]

Sony rep: Wii an impulse buy

SCEA spokesman tells New York Times that Nintendo's new console doesn't belong in the same category as the PlayStation 3.

By Brendan Sinclair (http://www.gamespot.com/users/Polybren/), GameSpot (http://www.gamespot.com/) Posted Jan 31, 2007 3:04 pm PT

In the past, Sony Computer Entertainment America spokesman Dave Karraker has been fairly critical of his gaming rivals at Microsoft. In September, Karraker called Microsoft's decision to release an HD DVD add-on for the Xbox 360 that only plays movies "unfortunate," adding that the company's 1080p update for the system wasn't "full HD."

Two months later, he slammed Microsoft's decision to offer high-definition movies and TV shows for download over Xbox Live as "a disservice to their consumer base" because purchasers of the Xbox 360 Core system would need to buy a hard drive to store the large files.

Now, Karraker has turned his eye toward Nintendo's Wii, telling The New York Times (http://tinyurl.com/yv7vkm) that the system didn't belong in the same category as the PlayStation 3.
"Wii could be considered an impulse buy more than anything else," Karraker was quoted as saying.

The Sony spokesman also told the paper that Sony was selling out shipments of 100,000 PS3s in the US every week, although, "the frenzy we saw at the holidays has subsided a bit."

The article ran today under the headline, "Nintendo's Wii, Radiating Fun, Is Eclipsing Sony Machine." It discussed each machine's relative performance over the recent holiday sales season and noted that PS3 systems have been easier to find on store shelves than the Wii.

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[Digita1]

Yeah, fuck the PS3. Worst thing ever. Haven't seen a single campaign ad for it either on TV or Newspapers/Magazines.

[Perant]

Yeah, fuck the PS3. Worst thing ever. Haven't seen a single campaign ad for it either on TV or Newspapers/Magazines.

you haven't? i see 'em all the time. they're really creepy, too. there's a TV ad with one of those really scary baby dolls, wearing a diaper, with those really creepy eyes, and it just looks at the PS3, and you see flicker of games in it's eyes, and then it starts crying, and then the PS3 just starts floating for some reason

and then there's the magazine ad with a chess piece broken in half and bleeding on the ground, with the caption, "It's so powerfuly, it's already devised a way to kill you"

they're weird and stupid, just like their fucking retarded PSP ads

[Zelandra]

Sony doesn't realize that there's one "next-gen" console, that's the 360. The Wii is a great system if you have a shitload of friends though, but it's not next-gen.

Anyways, the PS3 is even a larger failure than the gamecube was. Honestly, even the GC had better launch titles than this.

[Talorth]

the 360 is current gen, the ps3 is no-gen... and the wii is pre-gen.

you haven't? i see 'em all the time. they're really creepy, too. there's a TV ad with one of those really scary baby dolls, wearing a diaper, with those really creepy eyes, and it just looks at the PS3, and you see flicker of games in it's eyes, and then it starts crying, and then the PS3 just starts floating for some reason

That ad is more interesting than the xbox360 ads were BUT an ad doesn't really mean anything to me personally..

Microsoft knows how to push games in their ads, which is what matters.

I mean... look at the GoW ad. (Was a good ad.)

[Zelandra]

GoW TV add (the long one) was probably the best game commercial I've ever seen (aside from the N64 Smash Brothers one). That song from Donnie Darko (sp?) combined with him just running and shooting, then ending up in that room with like all the crawlers etc......fucking epic.

The PS3 commercials are just wierd, and make me happy that I'm not getting one, ever.

And Talroth, I agree with the next-gen, no-gen and pre-gen comment, that's exactly how it fucking is.

I wonder if sony will realize that they failed with the ps3? Will they do the same shit with the PS4?

Also, why the fuck did they use the Spiderman movie font for their logo?

[Perant]

the 360 is current gen, the ps3 is no-gen... and the wii is pre-gen.



That ad is more interesting than the xbox360 ads were BUT an ad doesn't really mean anything to me personally..

Microsoft knows how to push games in their ads, which is what matters.

I mean... look at the GoW ad. (Was a good ad.)

microsoft has this really awesome ad for their wireless accessories, but i've only seen it on our promo disc and gamestop. it's about some french guy and his hate of wires. it's awesome.

[Talorth]

Also, why the fuck did they use the Spiderman movie font for their logo?

I KNOW, that bothered me so much....

Unfortunately sony has a sense of elitism similar to that of Apple's when it comes to their products...

What I find interesting though is their profits haven't suffered as signifigantly as people had predicted.

I don't believe sony is stupid enough to fail twice. I think they will see that there mistake was focusing on CPU hardware and limiting support, paticularly when the console is quite a bit more difficult to code for.

The disadvantage for them is that they are in a really difficult position because of XNA, they need to invest within SCEA, which in the past made some amazing titles at the time. Also, lose that "high and mighty" feeling hopefully. It's not about the power of the system, its about the games.

Microsoft really knows how to get places, they've already positioned xbox360 as the "media center" and they've made XNA really appealing to a game developer, I mean who wouldn't want to be able to place their games on both a console and the pc and double profits.

It's basically like what they did with the whole directx thing. With consoles now I think coming from a software background really helps them.

[Zelandra]

When one of the developers for a game for PS3 came out and said that the dev kit for the ps3 was just a box with random components in it, not at all looking like a console, and then that the actual software was horrible, I remember reading it and then Sony forced him, and all the websites that posted about it, to remove it.

Sony makes mistakes repeatedly, but it's the fact that they have enough success from other parts that makes them still go on, and not realize how awful they are.

They always go with failed storages (MiniDisc and now Blueray are good examples), and they have a bunch of other wierd fucking ideas that never go well.

Also, Sony is making a shitload of cash off of the PS2. Since the release of the PS3 many people just bought the PS2 for like the $120 that the slim version costs now.

Honestly, their figures for not loosing money is that they count the PS2 and PS3 in the same category.

[WiGgLr]

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[stockfisch]

we don't have the ps3 in austria yet, but you still can't get a wii. sold out as soon as the next shipments come. (wii went life on november 8th)

[Perant]

we don't have the ps3 in austria yet, but you still can't get a wii. sold out as soon as the next shipments come. (wii went life on november 8th)

as far as my gamestop goes, we sell out of wiis in an instant. right now, we don't have any wiis in stock, any DSes, or any PS2s. but we always have a few ps3s sitting in the back.

[Faenorr]

who gives a fuck what kinda buy it is sony, atleast their selling systems! Imo sony is just plain scared. Look at the conan obrian bit the other night playing wii tennis with serina williams. That does better than ANY tv ad. And do you think that would ever happen with a ps3 controller, hell no. IMO wii is THE only next gen console. And dewy's adventure looks fucking amazing!

[Zengetsu]

Angers me to see so many unsold ps3's in my town and not a single wii.... fucking Nintendo had no idea the wii would do this good now there scrambling to mass ship as many as they can but they under produced ...

[Alrus]

we don't have the ps3 in austria yet, but you still can't get a wii. sold out as soon as the next shipments come. (wii went life on november 8th)

Same here, I went to my local shop to order one, and the guy told me I'd have to wait at least one month, if I'm lucky :<

[Faenorr]

Well you guys have to look at it this way. The people who got their wii's early are playing through zelda a second time / renting games. Now once you actually get you wii, there will be a new line of games a week off. Theres about 10 -12 new games coming out. So once you get your wii, you will have a gread selection of titles. And theres obviously the great ones not too far off from that.

[Zengetsu]

SSMBB comes out on my b day so I should be all set

[Zelandra]

IMO wii is THE only next gen console.

There's nothing "next-gen" about the Wii at all. It's just a GC with motion sensors in the controls.

It's a good system though, but it's hardly "next-gen".

[Grindrolas]

There's nothing "next-gen" about the Wii at all. It's just a GC with motion sensors in the controls.

It's a good system though, but it's hardly "next-gen".
next-gen doesn't just describe the graphic capabilities of a system IMO.

[Zelandra]

next-gen doesn't just describe the graphic capabilities of a system IMO.

What is next gen about it then? I've had motion sensored controls for my PC for ages, there's nothing revolutionary or "next-gen" about the Wii at all.

[Grindrolas]

What is next gen about it then? I've had motion sensored controls for my PC for ages, there's nothing revolutionary or "next-gen" about the Wii at all.
Theres not much point in arguing this with you, its fairly obvious that on this subject your eyes are very much closed to other possibilities other than your own. I've been gaming since the sega master system, I have yet to see ANYTHING like what the Wii has. You claim you had it for your PC. I must have missed the PC Gamer in which that was featured in, because I'm pretty sure something like that would have taken off much like it has in the Wii...

[Talorth]

lol.

[Zelandra]

Theres not much point in arguing this with you, its fairly obvious that on this subject your eyes are very much closed to other possibilities other than your own. I've been gaming since the sega master system, I have yet to see ANYTHING like what the Wii has. You claim you had it for your PC. I must have missed the PC Gamer in which that was featured in, because I'm pretty sure something like that would have taken off much like it has in the Wii...

I've been using a controller that fits my hand, and I aim using my hand and then fire by bending my trigger finger, then reloading etc. with my other fingers. You could also aim/click with it in any other game.

It's in a box in Sweden atm, but I'm sure it's still around.

I'm not closed minded my friend, you just have yet to explain what's next-gen about the Wii.

And Talroth should stop riding on other peoples posts and for once make a meaningful post himself.

[Grindrolas]

I've been using a controller that fits my hand, and I aim using my hand and then fire by bending my trigger finger, then reloading etc. with my other fingers. You could also aim/click with it in any other game.

It's in a box in Sweden atm, but I'm sure it's still around.

I'm not closed minded my friend, you just have yet to explain what's next-gen about the Wii.

And Talroth should stop riding on other peoples posts and for once make a meaningful post himself.
Our definition of next-gen is obviously different then. Although, after looking into it a little further, apparently there was a glove for the pc that had some sensors involved, but I couldn't find anything like what you described above.

If we're going to go by next-gen as graphics alone, then yes, the 360 really is the only contender. I like what Nintendo did this time around though, and it was a nice change of pace to see a company focus on something other than graphics.

In the long run Microsoft is going to win the battle. It isn't because their console is necessarily better, it is because of the position they've put themselves in. They're the kings of the pc gaming market, and control the platform that games are made for on a pc, and with XNA, they've made it incredibly easy and affordable for developers to create games for two platforms simultaneously, which in the end will have them controlling the console market. That is the advantage they have over Sony and Nintendo, and that advantage comes from their software background and knowing what programmers really need when it comes to dev kits.

[Zelandra]

So far I agree with everything you're saying, but I'm still confused as what is next-gen about the Wii.

[Grindrolas]

So far I agree with everything you're saying, but I'm still confused as what is next-gen about the Wii.
Next gen is quite literal to me, it doesn't have to have stunning graphics, as long as it isn't the same product repackaged under a different name.

[Zelandra]

Next gen is quite literal to me, it doesn't have to have stunning graphics, as long as it isn't the same product repackaged under a different name.

I guess I'm just a bit confused then.

I just think that what the wii has now could've been an addon for the GC....would've made me happier that way :>

[Archaos]

Well I guess it depends where you look at it. I think of anything better than an xbox next gen, and from what I understand a Wii has more hardware power than an xbox, so in my mind that makes it next gen. Even though I'm not buying a Wii for its graphically amazing games.

[Ignignokt]

lol, wii ftw. Its funny how bad the PS3 is bombing.

[Victis]

Tbh there isn't anything nextgen about the Wii, but they did focus on "it", making it a prime selling point.. just pick it up and play.

There have been plenty of items like this in the past.. mostly from Nintendo.. The Glove, superscope, the pistol etc. Even microsoft pitched the idea for FPS but it never took off (see Microsoft dual attack controller).. the idea/concept was never heavily marketed until now.. and its proven to be worth more than I thought it would.. I'll probly end up picking one up.. and I haven't bought a console system since I was 11 when I spent all my money on a n64

[Talorth]

I still however don't believe anyone will ever take the Wii seriously ;).

Not that that matters, gameplay matters.