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SLCR
January 22nd, 2007, 08:19 AM
NOTE: I take ZERO credit for the following - SLCR


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http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2251316



Hal Turner, racist radio show host, known for his - self-described - "in your face" style, has turned into the target of one of the world's largest online communities. This community being the 4chan image board (www.4chan.org (http://www.4chan.org/)).

4chan, known for being a legion comprised of hundreds upon thousands of anonymous e-soldiers, has chosen Hal Turner to be their next victim.

Why Hal Turner? Let me explain.

For those unfamiliar with 4chan, their /b/ forum (for random) regulars are well known for being rowdy, unruly, and devastating when it comes to raiding and invading other web forums. Their "raids" started out the Gaia forums, and then went on to the online game, Habbo Hotel, and have only escalated from that point. Soon, their raids have become a part of the real world, calling in radio shows (Tom Green's become familiar with the "/b/tards" - as they call themselves - and their prank calls on his live show).

So, who's next? Why, one of the nation's leading pro-white figureheads, Hal Turner. Hal runs his pro-white radio show on his own web server, and broadcasts from his own home. His racial and political standings are pretty harsh (one of those, "If you're not a straight, white Christian, then you're going to hell" kinda guys), and this is where his reputation stems from.

Now, don't get me wrong. Hal certainly isn't all bark and no bite. He's done his share of beating up minorities in an attempt to cleanse America. He got into a fight with a disabled war vet, Jersey City deputy mayor, Jaime Vazquez, who wore a sign reading "Hal Turner -- shoot me! Racists and bigots like you are cowards." Yes, that's right. This man stands up for what he believes in, by fighting Purple Heart-awarded Vietnam veterans.

So, a "routine" radio show raid, conducted by the /b/tards, escalates to a degree that nobody expected. Hal Turner, live on his radio show, threatened the lives of the prank callers, and even posted the phone numbers of these minors on his website, and encouraged his listeners to track them down and cause harm to them. Now, not all /b/tards are idiots. They understand the concept of invasion of privacy (read: Public disclosure), which struck a nerve.

The drums of war beat once again.

More prank calls came in. Calls came not only to his radio show phone number, but to his personal phone number, found with some e-sleuthing. Calls were made to his wife and son, threatening to rape and kill them. The real kicker here, is that his mother, who he claimed in 2004 (I believe it was 04, I may be mistaken on this) passed away, has been receiving phone calls, as well. After this, inspiration struck. More personal information was dug up, such as his license plate number, home address,

Knowing that the prank calls wouldn't end soon, Hal Turner hired a call screener, Gertrude, to try to limit the amount of prank calls. Knowing that prank calls are now going to be a pain to pull off, /b/tards deviate. With the help of a tool called wget, and some other bandwidth-leeching scripts, the DDoS attack on Hal Turner's show begins.

After one night, Hal Turner shuts his server down, realizing that he can't afford the bandwidth fees (his server handled the attack just fine, though. His wallet, on the other hand...). Using some very poor math skills, Hal comes up with two separate numbers for his bandwidth fees (neither of them are actually correct, according to the bandwidth information he provided, however). Now desperate, Hal begs his listeners for money.

In another act of desperation, Hal Turner threatens the lives of those conducting and organizing the attacks on his website. Hal Turner threatens the lives of thousands of unnamed people, most of which are minors. With threats to firebomb the homes and slit the throats of the families of those attackers, Hal Turner digs himself into a hole that he cannot climb out of.

Soon after, he does another radio show, where he rationalizes his reaction to the attack. The MP3 version of his show (most of the show, at least) can be found here (http://d14bl0.com/hal/Hal.Turner.Show%2028Dec2006.mp3) (this is my own web host, and I've got bandwidth galore (as in over 2000 GB), so feel free to download to your heart's content).

The attack does not stop here, however. Hal Turner does not only play around on his own website. Other pro-white websites, Vanguard News Network (http://www.vnnforum.com/) and Stormfront White Nationalist Community (http://www.stormfront.org/), are subject to attacks and raids. While Stormfront was not hit by a DDoS attack like VNN was, they both suffered from trolls and spam, as well as questions that these racist communities could not answer without making themselves look bad. The result was VNN being shut down temporarily, and Stormfront just being annoyed.

Turner claims to have filed lawsuits against John Does 1-100, and also claims that Skype, the Internet telephone company, is willing to give him the private information of anybody who's called into his show (which their ToS clearly states they will not do). While there has been no evidence of either of these, Turner also claims to have had one of this Aussie listeners track down and beat up one of the DDoS attackers, explained here (http://turnerchan.blogspot.com/2006/12/got-one-hal-turner-tracks-down-dos_27.html).

A big portion of the "pro-white" communities in the US have become aware of this. Many have now disowned Hal Turner, and now look down on him. Some because they don't want negative attention towards themselves via association. Some because they realize that Turner's childish reactions don't even merit their acknowledgment.

Some interesting reads:

http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hal_Turner <-- Official Wikipedia article
http://turnerchan.blogspot.com/ <-- Updated blog on the "War"
http://digg.com/offbeat_news/lol_internet_war <-- Digg.com article 1
http://digg.com/offbeat_news/Got_On...n_DoS_Douchebag (http://digg.com/offbeat_news/Got_One_Hal_Turner_Tracks_Down_DoS_Douchebag) <-- Digg.com article 2
http://digg.com/politics/Hal_Turner...ken_Financially (http://digg.com/politics/Hal_Turner_Admits_Live_on_His_Show_That_He_Has_Bee n_Broken_Financially) <-- Digg.com article 3
http://www.encyclopediadramatica.co....php/Hal_Turner (http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php/Hal_Turner) <-- EnclypodiaDramatica article, which also covers more in-depth, and up-to-date information on Turner's lies, threats, and other forms of good entertainment


So, goons. I know you're all pretty smart people. For those of you who've either read my drivel, or are already aware of the situation, please, share your thoughts. I'm interested to know if anybody knows what kind of legal situation he truly is in. Does he have any real validity in filing lawsuits against 100 John Does?

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First off, http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/Warnerve/Smileys/emot-v.gif LOLINTERNETZ! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/Warnerve/Smileys/emot-vreverse.gif but interesting nonetheless.

Fuck people and organizations like Turner('s) that abuse the Constitution's leniencies to promote ignorance, hatred, and violence. GRRR.

Also, GG:

I'm curious about this. What kind of questions did [4chan] corner them with? I kind of thought that what the rest of us think "looks bad" is what racists think of as righteous and whatnot. A few I could think of off the top of my head:

~Christianity is an offshoot of Judaism, as with the other abrahamic religions. How can you knowingly follow a religion of Jewish origin?

~Many of you are godless. Given the rich, if backwards, mythos that has sprung up around White supremacism (The aryan purity of Jesus' blood, Jews having descended from the union of one of the original humans and Satan) how do you reconcile a rational, naturalistic worldview with irrational claims that one race is somehow objective superior to others?

~What is you definition of superiority? If it's physical ability, the blacks have you beat across the board according to any racially divided statistics you'd care to provide. If it's intelligence, the Japanese and Jews have you beat in a wide array of different tests authored by whites. Just what is it exactly that you feel makes whites "superior" to other races?

Damarus
January 22nd, 2007, 08:47 AM
Pwnt like a salmon in a bucket of poos.

Grog
January 22nd, 2007, 08:54 AM
lol internets/white people

Zelandra
January 22nd, 2007, 09:29 AM
This should be done way more often.

RickyMartin
January 22nd, 2007, 09:55 AM
LoL

owned

Damascus
January 22nd, 2007, 10:30 AM
Pwnt like a salmon in a bucket of poos.

You'd know all about poos wouldn't you buddy.

Brei
January 22nd, 2007, 11:27 AM
This should be done way more often.QFT

Arlington
January 22nd, 2007, 01:14 PM
lol internets/white people

Why are gingers so racist against white people ><

Zelandra
January 22nd, 2007, 03:04 PM
Why are gingers so racist against white people ><

Haven't you watched South Park?

Grog
January 22nd, 2007, 03:53 PM
ginge fo life

Infamous
January 22nd, 2007, 03:57 PM
>.>
<.<
White power! D:

Mewfish
January 22nd, 2007, 04:57 PM
WPWPWPWPWP.



WHITEPOWER.




I'm so glad I'm black.

stockfisch
January 22nd, 2007, 04:58 PM
lol black

Mewfish
January 22nd, 2007, 04:59 PM
What.

stockfisch
January 22nd, 2007, 05:00 PM
U AINT A NIGGA

Grog
January 22nd, 2007, 05:04 PM
cracker please

mazik
January 22nd, 2007, 06:57 PM
sweet^ ty slcr

Talorth
January 22nd, 2007, 07:25 PM
cracker please
http://www.cepolina.com/freephoto/f/other.food/cracker.snack.bread.jpg

BLACK
January 22nd, 2007, 08:11 PM
Did you know that it's impossible to eat more than 6 saltines in a minute without a glass of liquid?

Victis
January 22nd, 2007, 09:54 PM
YOU SEE THIS?
http://www.peterkimball.com/Images/Lists/NortonSmall.jpg
IT MEANS NOT WELCOME

SLCR
January 22nd, 2007, 10:24 PM
Did you know that it's impossible to eat more than 6 saltines in a minute without a glass of liquid?Not true.

edit: Page 2 snypa :u This post on page 2 has officially changed the course of the thread! :E

Archaos
January 22nd, 2007, 11:17 PM
saltines are fucken tough to down son.

Zebedee
January 23rd, 2007, 12:18 PM
ginge fo life

Did you know that redheads produce far more vitamin D in sunlight than lesser mortals? That means that they have less chance of becoming calcium deficient and getting related diseases like rickets. Redheads are genetically modified to flourish in regions of low sunlight like the good old UK which is why the indiginous population were predominantly redheaded and, as they didn't need to produce melanin, very pale skinned.

So be proud of your ginger roots, you were born and bred to live here but then got fucked over by the Romans, Saxons, Angles, Vikings, Normans and now the whole fucking Commonwealth.

Grog
January 23rd, 2007, 12:26 PM
actually my red hair came from my danish side... and that was only for the first 6 or so years of my life
no wait ginger beard

Victis
January 23rd, 2007, 04:06 PM
Yeah I've got the scandi background.. redhair with blonde roots.. used to be bright bright orange.. has darkened as I've gotten older (after dying it a few times aswell during high school.. lightens up alot during the summer when Im out and about.. nothing I can do can take away from the paleness...

The only thing I don't understand.. is the rumor/fact (I don't even know anymore) that by the year 2080.. we wont have any newborn redheads.. the gene that produces the red hair etc.. is basically not a dominant one.. which ponders the question... where did it originate from.. and what on the planet is different (fuck off global warming, we'll nuke ourselves to death before we die of sunburn/flooding) than when redheads were flourishing... I WILL SPREAD MY SEED FOR THE GREATER GOOD!

Alrus
January 23rd, 2007, 04:27 PM
A recessive gene can still be present (? not sure of the word...) in a non red headed person. For example, Lets say red hair gene (if it's only coded by one gene that is) a -because it's recessive(?) and brown is A -dominant : You can have a brown haired person who is Aa, he'll be brown, but if he makes a kid with another Aa person, or a red headed person, there's some chance that that kid will be red headed. (I'll add that I'm using Mendel's theory, not Morgan's, which is just a bit different, not by much tho)

So cept if red headed people only have sex with AA people, and for some wierd circumstance, Aa people doesn't give their "a" to any of their kid, I doubt red head will disappear in 2080
Now who knows...

Victis
January 23rd, 2007, 05:09 PM
2080 not 1980 fruit nugget

Talorth
January 23rd, 2007, 05:13 PM
ahah as a kid i was 100% a blonde, then my hair went darker :O.

I BECAME GOTH...


well my hair isnt black so nvm...

Alrus
January 23rd, 2007, 05:15 PM
2080 not 1980 fruit nugget

Yeah well, I was tired >.> My point still stands tho, it's like saying Squid will become an evolved race in "the future" :E

Grog
January 23rd, 2007, 05:24 PM
ahah as a kid i was 100% a blonde, then my hair went darker :O.

I BECAME GOTH...


well my hair isnt black so nvm...
halfway between blonde and goth = emo

BLACK
January 23rd, 2007, 06:59 PM
Not true.

edit: Page 2 snypa :u This post on page 2 has officially changed the course of the thread! :E

Fraps or it didn't happen.

Siri
January 23rd, 2007, 09:42 PM
Im gonna quote my brother here and say TLDR...

Damarus
January 23rd, 2007, 09:45 PM
halfway between blonde and goth = emoLOL! That's so true... All the emo's around here have like streaks of blonde in their hair and shit.

Victis
January 23rd, 2007, 11:10 PM
Take baseball bats to the emo legs.. they have been known to give way easily.

Talorth
January 23rd, 2007, 11:21 PM
im no emo : (

/cry


...oh...crap...

Zelandra
January 23rd, 2007, 11:30 PM
Take baseball bats to the emo legs.. they have been known to give way easily.

I second this :O

Hetzle
January 24th, 2007, 12:38 AM
My friend has eaten 7 saltines in a minute without a drink :O

Damarus
January 24th, 2007, 12:54 AM
You know what's weird, I've been finding a lot of indie girls hot lately... Like, really hot!

Damascus
January 24th, 2007, 01:36 AM
Indie girls are ok.

Damarus
January 24th, 2007, 01:39 AM
They are practically emo though, just without the actual wanting to kill yourself and being depressed. Similar dress sense more often than not and sometimes similar musical taste. Same non-conformist attitude.

Damascus
January 24th, 2007, 01:40 AM
Indie girls are more genuine though.

Damarus
January 24th, 2007, 01:42 AM
And hot...

Damascus
January 24th, 2007, 08:50 AM
Honestly emo girls would be cute if they weren't fat, whiney and insecure. And annoying.

Having said that, people in school thought I was goth because I have black hair. Smart fuckers, they were. Now people just think I'm emo for the same reason. I soon sort that shit out though.

Zebedee
January 24th, 2007, 08:57 AM
I soon sort that shit out though.

Self harm is the answer.

Brei
January 24th, 2007, 10:37 AM
Honestly emo girls would be cute if they weren't fat, whiney and insecure. And annoying.So basically what you're saying is emo girls would be cute if they weren't emo.. :confused:

Damarus
January 24th, 2007, 06:45 PM
So basically what you're saying is emo girls would be cute if they weren't emo.. :confused:Yes.

Damascus
January 24th, 2007, 09:08 PM
So basically what you're saying is emo girls would be cute if they weren't emo.. :confused:

You're such a clever girlie :3

Damarus
January 24th, 2007, 09:13 PM
You're such a clever girlie :3They breed em so perceptive-like in the US of A ^___^

Archaos
January 24th, 2007, 09:31 PM
We like our Emo chicks.

:|

Its a problem.

Zengetsu
January 24th, 2007, 10:41 PM
that was a fun night on /b/ and everyone was sayin "remember remember the 17th of december"

Damascus
January 24th, 2007, 10:53 PM
They breed em so perceptive-like in the US of A ^___^

Hyuuuuck!

Zelandra
January 24th, 2007, 11:27 PM
that was a fun night on /b/ and everyone was sayin "remember remember the 17th of december"

lol :D

SLCR
January 25th, 2007, 10:01 AM
that was a fun night on /b/ and everyone was sayin "remember remember the 17th of december" Anytime I hear anything about 4chan, I'm tormented with memories of shitting dicknipplesohgod >_<

Damascus
January 25th, 2007, 11:02 AM
Anytime I hear anything about 4chan, I'm tormented with memories of shitting dicknipplesohgod >_<

Every time I see you post I'm tormented with memories of...like...that awesome beard thing you had in one photo, one time, I think.

Inxile
January 25th, 2007, 11:11 AM
lolz thats an awesome story

SLCR
January 26th, 2007, 02:18 PM
Every time I see you post I'm tormented with memories of...like...that awesome beard thing you had in one photo, one time, I think.Damn duder, that was awhile ago =o My goatee used to be long enough to braid, lmao. @_@